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How Would You Grade This Special 1934 50 Cent Coin..?

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 Posted 01/09/2017  11:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Everest to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I thought it was a solid price all things considered. Everyone bidding on the coin knew
its history as a PCGS 66 and bid accordingly. If D Moore acquired the coin in 2011 for
approx $6300 he might have been the only bidder to meet the opening reserve. What
would the coin have sold for if there had been no reserve as the current Heritage sale?
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 Posted 01/09/2017  11:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There were 4 "bids + registered phone bidders" for the April 2011 $6325 sale, according to ha. There was a $2500 opening bid for this auction, which nobody placed until day of auction if I remember right. Interestingly, there was another PCGS MS66 in the 2011 auction, and in a green holder, which had 8 bids/bidders but sold for $4887.50. Between the two I don't see much technical difference; this one just has more flavorful toning, and the description in 2011 was a lot more jazzy. Maybe D Moore was just bidding against someone else who really wanted it for the toning, and the other one went for a more normal price. The other one is here https://coins.ha.com/itm/canada/wor...nail-071515. To me it depends more on what bidders there are than what holder it's in, for coins in this price range.

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 Posted 01/10/2017  08:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for adding that other link (34) in here kbbpll. I had not seen that before.

I still think that PCGS is the only way to go on most tough coins.
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 Posted 01/19/2017  10:06 am  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
DEVLEC... some food for thought.

1934 50c ICCS MS-64 "radiant tones of silver golds and blues" TCNC 2016 New Years sale (Lot #649) sold for $2012.50 (including hammer)

1934 50c ICCS MS-64 (same coin as above, same auction house) TCNC 2016 May Auction (Lot #564) sold for 2013.65 (including hammer)

How-Would-You-Grade-This-Special-1934-50-Cent-Coin..?
Which, if anyone knows TCNC, it sold "to the book" (meaning it did not get a bid on the reserve), in Canadian dollars.

Here are other high grades:

ICCS MS-65: https://coins.ha.com/itm/canada/wor.../419-50521.s? (2006 auction, I seriously doubt this one is in an ICCS holder today)

PCGS MS-65: https://coins.ha.com/itm/canada/wor...419-50522.s?

Pittman's coin in PCGS MS-64: https://coins.ha.com/itm/canada/wor.../340-14450.s?

Belzberg's PCGS MS-67 (solo highest graded): https://coins.ha.com/itm/canada/wor.../312-15508.s?

PCGS MS-66 in older holder: https://coins.ha.com/itm/canada/wor...014-23287.s?

Compare those coins, to yours. Remember that eye-appeal counts too...

I think the recent sale of the Moore coin at a lower price probably reflects a sign of the collecting times in Canadian numismatics, not necessarily the holder itself... I am sure dealers are praying for 2002-2008 prices again! The 'Perth Collection' also contains the George V 50-cent coins, you could ask Bob himself for an opinion on your coin at the next Coin Expo, (I suspect he has Belzberg's coin).
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Thanks for these SPP..more very nice tough examples..

Yes I will have Bob view my 34..

There is always something special when you look at a Norweb piece..and eye-appeal and pedigree are such important factors.

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 Posted 12/04/2022  11:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numisstap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Is "D Moore" someone we should know? Is this related to Chuck's estate?


According to a friend who works at NGC, it turns out that "D Moore" is literally just Mark Salzberg, the owner and Chairman of NGC. It was his personal collection that he graded himself, advertised and then sold. He named it the "D Moore" collection because his favorite actress is Demi Moore.
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 Posted 12/05/2022  11:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Levaril to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well that's an interesting twist if true!
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