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Would Dipping Remove A Fingerprint?

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Just bought a set of Canada Aviation Coins. They are silver proof with a GILT inlay. Two have noticeable fingerprints.

I have soaked them in acetone and as expected no change.

What effect would dipping them have?

I would like to remove the fingerprints but don't want to make the situation worse.



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Dipping removes a small amount of the surface of a Coin. Dipping silver proofs, especially with large fields like this coin, almost always results in a clouding on the surface.
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Definitely do not dip a proof.
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Only way to remove an etched print on a mirror surface would be to mechanically repolish the surface.
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Thanks for the feedback.

I've dipped silver proof coins that were cloudy or hazy although not this large. They came out much improved.
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I'm with Ed , Never dip a proof coin .
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Don't ever dip a proof, you may of gotten lucky the first time, but don't test your luck
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I agree. The mirror surface is not too forgiving and it does not take much to strip it away. I could probably guarantee that the fingerprint layer is going to be thicker. That is, successfully removing it will certainly kill the mirrors.
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A real no-no.
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I recently had a batch of Silver proof coins treated for fingerprints by the conservation team at PCGS and the results were Not inspiring.
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Sandpaper will remove it..
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Thanks for all the input except of course the sandpaper comment.

Guess I will live with the fingerprints on 2 coins.

Since a previous owner obviously handled the coins improperly it would probably be a good idea to give the other 8 an acetone bath.
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Natural oils of our skin are acidic, and will form metallic organic compounds, and inorganic sulfide compounds.
These take a tiny amount of metal from the polished surface of a proof coin, enough to permanently stain the coin, unfortunately.

If a Mint is going to market proof coins they should be permanently sealed in clear capsules by the Mint as part of their presentation and long term presentation.

It that was the case, they would then never need to be graded.
Permanently mint sealed capsules are even more secure than slabbing. Such coins could then be handled with zero fear of fingerprint staining.
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If a Mint is going to market proof coins they should be permanently sealed in clear capsules by the Mint as part of their presentation and long term presentation...
Then how would I get them into my albums?

We do not need to idiot proof everything. We just need fewer idiots. "Education is the key..."
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