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Unusual Alloy Mix Lincoln Cent

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I obtained this coin in the middle of a 1955-S/S roll. Two of them have reverses that seem to be copper and mixed brass. Does anyone have an error designation number on these coins?

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It looks to be an issue of toning and not an alloy issue.
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Its not uncommon to find that coloration in rolls. It is toning rather than alloy mix.
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No it is not toning. I rubbed the other coin that has less of the brass/green and the color does not change. The color is positively coming from the alloy.
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I don't know why you think that rubbing the coin would remove toning. The metal has changed color. It happens due to being exposed to the environment.

New copper starts out red and hardly ever stays that way for very long.
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Those pennies are 95% copper, they don't contain enough zinc to make it brass.
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with buddy, rubbing a coin doesn't remove anything, except for eye appeal. Not sure why you did that. Its just toning
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I don't know why you think that rubbing the coin would remove toning. The metal has changed color.

Toning is not the metal changing color, it is the result of oxides, sulfides or other coatings that form on the surface of the metal. Rubbing may not change the color at first but eventually you will wear through that layer and the color will change.
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I don't think this is an alloy issue . Look at the reverse ,half the coin is red, the other half is green, if it was an alloy mixture the whole coin would have the ''woodie effect'' which this coin does not show .
My gut says toning possibly from environment . But none the less ; TONING .
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Does anyone have a photo or reference of a Lincoln Cent that has the same brass/green and copper tone as this coin?
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I do not have any photos handy but I have seen several mid-50s wheaties with similar greenish-yellow toning.
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and I've seen a good number of them also
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I have collected 45 years and have not seen any lincoln cents "toned" even similar to this. Maybe someone has a reference. As far as woodies are concerned, here is photo of a 1918 woodie from my collection.

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Many copper coins tone this way in rolls.
I have seen many Australian penny's like this and personally I think they look great.
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Nice woodie!
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Here are photos of the other coin and also a better photo of the coin that has the larger green/brass/copper "tone" The first photo shows the color in bar type streaks. This a characteristic of an alloy coin or most woodies.

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