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Pillar of the Community
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No, not the same at all . It is well known that Specimen sets were issued for distribution by Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau as gifts on his foreign state visits. Throughout the history of the RCM special Specimen Coins not generally available for sale to the public were distributed to museums , dignitaries of foreign governments and others. They were not MINT SPORT back door jobs. As an aside government mints all over the globe have done the same . As an example I recently had the opportunity to visit the Bank of England Museum in London England . On display was a 1953 Specimen Gold Sovereign and Specimen Half Sovereign. Both never issued to the public just museums. But there they are . Edited by Pacificoin
01/04/2017 7:03 pm
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Canada
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Hm, well okay. Must be my memory, or was it PL sets that could be privately ordered from RCM in an era before sets were offered to the public. My point is it's easy to understand how the line could get crossed without there being diabolical intent at the time. This all took place prior to workplace policies, guidelines, rules and procedures. Judgement prevailed, and it wasn't always the same as we might apply today. As for wrong planchets, backdoor jobs likely not only involved gold but for some reasons, the others seem to not be critiqued. In my opinion the 60s era and the errors, backdoor or otherwise, are a fascinating saga within RCM that add a touch of colour to the history of Canadian numismatics. As we are not generally known for our outstanding vibrancy or flair, I think it's an opportunity to work with what we've got.  |
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Canada
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If the mint were smart they would stop cranking out 17 million over priced colored coins every year and start a black ops department that strategically puts out "side door" mint errors...
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Australia
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Cynical, but sometimes true, unfortunately.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I would not touch any of it with a ten foot pole. PCGS and others should be ashamed of themselves for perpetuating this material Back door jobs? Absolutely! However, for the right price I would snap up everyone of them without shame and be proud to have them in my collection. |
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Canada
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On the related issue of Property Rights and the topic of 50 year old backdoor gold coins that likely have changed hands numerous times by now ---
Be careful for what you might wish for.
If 50+ years after the fact, a government official is legally entitled to confiscate a coin from an owner who has bought and paid a fair price for it but is deemed to never have been officially released, then next comes an agent ripping up your Land Title because your land cannot be proven to have been rightfully owned by whoever developed it a hundred or more years ago.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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If the RCM takes action they still have to go through the court system first as in the Manitoba gold coins and get judgement, as for land titles almost any recent mortgages in Ontario, requires Title insurance to protect such miss deeds |
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Quote:If the RCM takes action they still have to go through the court system....l RCM is a Canadian Crown Corp The Govenrment of Canada passes laws, and Canadian Judges are appointed by the Govt of Canada. John while you may not consider Private Property Rights to be important, I assure you that you're in the minority. Quote:
...as in the Manitoba gold coins....
That an outstanding judgement exists is absolutely nonsense considering the number of times the coins have been bought and sold in the public realm. The fact that.nobody is able to support this rumour by any reference to any court document indicates it never happened and perpetuating it as truth is not helpful. |
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Very unusual, a quirky twist, too bad the story behind it is unknown. Actually, the story behind these are known - but not published... "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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