Coolest Backdoor Jobs - Canada 25c 1969 Struck On 1967 Gold Sovereign

In my opinion the quarters on Gold sovereigns , and all the other fantasy garbage from this 1967 to 1971 period is a total joke and is a small microcosm of how inept or corrupt the management and/ or the employees of the Ottawa Mint were during this period. I would not touch any of it with a ten foot pole. PCGS and others should be ashamed of themselves for perpetuating this material.

@ moxking .......you are kidding right? Comparing obvious fabricated RCM mint sport to a restrike of a classic US silver dollar. I will give you the 1913 Liberty nickels.
There is very little speculation on how a sovereign or a German 20 Mark magically turns into a Gold Canadian 25 cents. Here's how that worked...... mint employee went to local Bank of Nova Scotia in Ottawa , where you could buy any Gold coin you wanted as Canadians could legally buy and sell all they wanted. Reports to work on the late shift strikes a few here and there and oh my , they suddenly end up in the hands of one of the three or four major coin dealers in Canada at the time.
All the back door stuff from the late 1960s, early 1970s always came from the same three or four sources without exception.

Up until the early 70s the mint accepted custom orders including for example, Specimen Sets that were not offered for sale to the general public. It appears little or no records were kept in terms of mintage. I'd presume the majority were ordered by dealers for their customers.

Just curious, would you consider that a type of backdoor sale as well?

Hm, well okay. Must be my memory, or was it PL sets that could be privately ordered from RCM in an era before sets were offered to the public.

My point is it's easy to understand how the line could get crossed without there being diabolical intent at the time. This all took place prior to workplace policies, guidelines, rules and procedures. Judgement prevailed, and it wasn't always the same as we might apply today.

As for wrong planchets, backdoor jobs likely not only involved gold but for some reasons, the others seem to not be critiqued.

In my opinion the 60s era and the errors, backdoor or otherwise, are a fascinating saga within RCM that add a touch of colour to the history of Canadian numismatics. As we are not generally known for our outstanding vibrancy or flair, I think it's an opportunity to work with what we've got.

Cynical, but sometimes true, unfortunately.

On the related issue of Property Rights and the topic of 50 year old backdoor gold coins that likely have changed hands numerous times by now ---

Be careful for what you might wish for.

If 50+ years after the fact, a government official is legally entitled to confiscate a coin from an owner who has bought and paid a fair price for it but is deemed to never have been officially released, then next comes an agent ripping up your Land Title because your land cannot be proven to have been rightfully owned by whoever developed it a hundred or more years ago.

RCM is a Canadian Crown Corp
The Govenrment of Canada passes laws, and
Canadian Judges are appointed by the Govt of Canada.

John while you may not consider Private Property Rights to be important, I assure you that you're in the minority.





That an outstanding judgement exists is absolutely nonsense considering the number of times the coins have been bought and sold in the public realm. The fact that.nobody is able to support this rumour by any reference to any court document indicates it never happened and perpetuating it as truth is not helpful.