How Far Back Can We Go? Fourth Edition! Ended At 1461 Waiting On 1460 C. E. (A. H. 864)

@Spence

I did some homework myself; on http://www.coinshome.net the following information is written about the tragic Johan Ernst and his 7 brothers.
So it appears 1610 was still a good period compared to what would follow.


"In 1620 Johann Ernst served under Frederick V, Elector Palatine, the famous Winter King. After his defeat in the Battle of White Mountain on 8 November 1620, the duke refused to submit to the Emperor without conditions. As a punishment, he lost his estates and the guardianship of his brothers.

Now fully against the Habsburgs, he fought in the Netherlands and performed duties as a ride master. Later, he took a commission as a Danish lieutenant general of the cavalry and fought in the Thirty Years' War in Westphalia and Lower Saxony. As such he participated in the conquest of the Schlesiens. Afterwards he went to fight for Count Peter Ernst II of Mansfeld for one of his estates in Hungary. There Johann Ernst died, at the age of 32 years, in the Hungarian location of Sankt Martin, as a result of war wounds."

Groschen Poland 1608

Could be chalices. Thanks @1C for providing some more information about the history of this time period. Yes @spruett it can be like drinking from the firehose a little, but that dull ache in your head is your brain growing from all the new knowledge that you are acquiring.

Here is a Double Tournois from France (Lyon mint) dated 1608.

I agree, but nothing wrong with the Denars though.

I will not be complaining.

Here is another Groschen from Poland (Krakow mint), but dated 1607 AD.

1606 -- France, double tournois: