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Edited by okiecoiner
01/06/2017 7:05 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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 ..to the Forum Amie709..  The links that okiecoiner has given you will help with your grading.  |
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Grading takes some time to learn, but there are plenty of folks here willing to help. |
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It's hard to tell from the pics you provided but to me it looks like the 5 cent newfie piece is F-VF and the 50 cent piece is VG
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Grading does take some time and patience to learn...you definitely can do it! One of the things that helped me learn to grade was the Charlton guide...in the front of this guide they have very helpful and detailed descriptions attached to pictures of the all the grades (VG, F, VF etc) of every monarch from Victoria on. I definitely think the Charlton guide presents the best and most accurate way to grade Canadian coins.
This brings up a pet peeve of mine in the coin collecting hobby. I think that PCGS does a great job of accurately grading Canadian coins that are in mint condition. However, when it comes to Canadian coins that are circulated, I think that PCGS severely over-grades these coins. It is the only reason why I will never buy a circulated Canadian coin in a PCGS slab.
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That's for the info everyone!! G to VG is what I was thinking for the 50 cent piece too. it has obvious wear with some of the letters worn off and some of the markings on the crown worn off. the 5 cent piece was ALOT harder for me to try to judge!! It doesn't seems to have any missing points at all but it looks blackish/faded/worn/i dont know what you call it lol so I wasnt sure how to try to grade that one. is the black on it permanent or can it be cleaned off?
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The "black" on it is a natural patina and should never be cleaned off. Cleaning coins in any way is a a big no-no. There are many discussions on this subject. Here is one of them: http://goccf.com/t/22496 |
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 NEVER clean your coins, unless it is glue, oil, or it is a metal detecting find. |
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ok thanks!! Now, with the patina on the coin how can you determine a grade VF? Cause above that is where the original shine/luster of the coin plays into the value correct? Or, does the patina being on it mean that the luster is gone anyway as opposed to just covered up?
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Pillar of the Community
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There is no patina on either coin and they've been cleaned at some time.
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Pillar of the Community
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This book is the widely accepted standard for Grading Canadian coins. 162340770152150911284928Also available at many dealers. "Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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You can judge the grade by the amount of wear on the high points.... if you look at the sites okie had provided you'll see where yours falls...
While some think that "black" doesn't look appealing I say that's EXACTLY what a circulated coin from that period should look like.... I like coins with a story and character
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So patina on the coin means it's been circulated?
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"patina" is surface luster and finish. You can tell by the appearance whether it is natural or not .. most metals will slightly alter the surface appearance as they age, silver getting almost black and nickel turning kind of gun-metal.
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