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Bronze Disease - Need Help

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One of my friend gave me this Antoninus Pius sestertius today. (RIC 765)

As you can see, the coin is infected.
I do not want to make matters worse.
Does anyone have experience with this problem? Idea?
Any advice would be really appreciated!



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 Posted 01/21/2017  12:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coin197 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
NCS perhaps?
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 Posted 01/21/2017  12:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Baltas to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Do not think so. :(
"Though NCS conservation benefits many coins, there are certain problems that cannot be remedied, such as corrosion, wear, scratches, and white "milk" spots. NCS does not make repairs and, likewise, cannot undo mechanical alternations."
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I have had fair results (and certainly not made things worse) with using acetone on cotton wool to remove as much as possible then Verdicare to treat the infection.

You can get the acetone anywhere and the Verdicare from wizard coins. Postage is likely expensive if you're outside the US.
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 Posted 01/21/2017  12:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Baltas to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you David!
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David nailed it. Just make sure the acetone is pure.
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Your coin has bronze disease, not verdigris. Removing the green chemical salts and sealing the areas will only make matters worse. Here is why: once BD starts it sustains itself within the fabric of the coin. Sealing it from air and moisture does not stop the action which continues beneath the sealant. But the sealant does hinder your ability to treat the coin chemically.

The treatment which will stop the progress of bronze disease involves the use of sodium sesquicarbonate and a specific set of procedures for applying it and removing it. Unfortunately this treatment will also destroy some patina. The treatment is not worse than the disease when the BD is in its later stages and is forming pits. That is what it is doing to your coin.

the green deposits are the result of chemical action between the bronze and HCL

BTW- don't let this coin or the material on it make contact with other bronze coins in your collection. True BD is "contagious."
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Thank you all of you!
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Here's the site I usually refer folks to for bronze disease treatment info: http://kevinscoins.ancients.info/BD...Disease.html
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Thank you!
Now I go and buy the ingredients. :)
I will post pictures when I will finish the process.
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Before you go and buy chemicals you may want to try this. I've done this and it halted the progression of the disease. Place the coin in a 200 degree oven or under a lamp that will heat the coin to remove the moisture trapped in it. Once the coin is heated remove it quickly and place it under and air tight jar so the moisture does seep back into the coin as it cools. Once cooled you can remove what remains on the green deposits. Than you can give the coin a coat of REN wax. Simple but it works.
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That's what I used to do, but be careful using wax! I had BD on this coin, treated it with distilled water/baking soda, scrubbed, then baked it (didn't use the air tight jar however). looked good, then applied some wax, here it is a few months later...

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As lrbguy said... the BD just kept going under the wax.


I treated again with distilled water, baked to dry, then treated with verdi-care, then it look like this...

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It still looks like that two years later. I just checked it again. Dont' forget to cheep checking your coin, that stuff tends to come back!
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Thank you all of you!

I did both process twice! :D Just for sure, but I did not cover with wax.
The coin is still in quarantine, but looks ok!



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Wow! Great job. Does the reverse look this good?
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I agree you did an excellent job.
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nice job @baltas!
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