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Error Inner Core Twoonie $2 Canadian Coin, Ground Down In Mint Process

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Error-Inner-Core-Twoonie-$2-Canadian-Coin,-Ground-Down-In-Mint-Process


Error-Inner-Core-Twoonie-$2-Canadian-Coin,-Ground-Down-In-Mint-Process

I haven't seen one like this before. People are telling me it's vandalized, but I don't think so. he grinds are not by hand there is not much of a variation on the direction of grooves. The glob of metal on it would have made it not move though a Twoonie thick slot and the components of the minting machine ground it down until it filly popped through the slot. Where can I get this verified in Alberta Canada.?
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to CCF. Looks like post mint damage to me.
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Didn't happen at the Mint.
People who tell you it's been vandalized are correct.
Never hurts to ask.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Sorry, you'd gave to see it. The Glob of metal on the inner core makes it protrude it was caught up and ground down at the mint in a process of moving the coins down the line. when you see how the glob lines up with he grinds then you'd agree that I have a very rare mint error Twoonie
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PMD, Post Mint Damage.
This coin has been attacked with an angle grinder, Without a shadow of a doubt.
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Not attacked with an angle grinder, you have no evidence of that and the lines are nearly perfectly inline. A man with a grinder uses different angles.
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Not attacked with an angle grinder, you have no evidence of that


just the exposed "Fresh" metal is enough to say this has been ground down fairly recently.
IF this happened at the mint (which there is zero chance) the metal would be the same colour over the entire coin.
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KnowBob this was done after the mint. It is called post mint damage. PMD. No more no less.
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Here is a link to my video

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It definitively is a mint error, don't hate haters, don't be jelling on my steeze.
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By all means, have it certified.
I know some graders who'll put whatever you want on the label.
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I won't comment on the top pic because it's a bit blurry and I don't know exactly what is there.

But that lower pic is a no-brainer.

Look at the steps in that grinding and a fairly rough stone to boot. The grinder was large and stationary and the coin was held up to it. Good thing that he didn't catch his finger in it..

It must have got pretty hot to hold with that deep damage..
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it definitively is a mint error, don't hate haters, don't be jelling on my steeze.


Nobody is bagging you or trying to be unreasonable about your coin, We all Love to see new errors and varieties But unfortunately your coin really IS just a damaged coin.
I would Love to say otherwise But I can't.
Keep looking as there are errors out there and the more coins you look at the better your chances of finding them are.
If you use the search function on this site and type in "Error Coin" you will find a multitude of various errors that will help you to be able spot them, It will also give you a good idea of what is not an error as well
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The mint doesn't "grind down coins until they pop through a slot". Any true errors are removed and recycled before they are sent out to the public - which is why finding an error is a rare thing.

You came to a website full of knowledgeable collectors to confirm (or deny) the fact that other people are telling you it's vandalized, but you're not willing to accept the answers here either? I realize you don't know these people, but trust me if you can, several of the people who have replied to your post are experts in the field and you would be wise to listen (and learn!)

If you are dead set that it's an error (it's not) then you can have a dealer submit it to ICCS or CCCS for certication, but sorry to say you would be wasting your money.

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with all above. The marks look really fresh for a twenty year old coin. Well said Wade
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the core melted while being subjected to grinding IMO. Not at the mint. Send it to PCGS in the USA. Will cost around 100.00 to have them tell you what I just typed tho. Up to you. It is your coin.
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