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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Looks good except for the surfaces. Your thoughts on grade and problems? Thanks. I think it's been cleaned, but I also think it is very nice. If you think so too, how much of a discount in % would you need to get you to purchase?   IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.comEdited by numismatic student
01/30/2017 7:29 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Yes cleaned - OR maybe a counterfeit copy? Just throwing it out there as there were 286,000 minted and the arrows were almost touching the denticles as this coins arrows are away from them. And the date just doesn't look "right".
Edited by Mark1959
01/30/2017 7:52 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
11917 Posts |
This is the Browning-1 (B-1) late die state (LDS). You can tell because:
1. There is no period after "50C" in the reverse. All other varieties have the period.
2. In normal B-1s, the repunched legend of an "O" between the two letters in "OF" would be visible. It is not on this coin, so it is the B-1 LDS variant.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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This is the Browning-1 (B-1) late die state Good luck - I'de stay away from it, if nothing else buying an unslabbed and cleaned coin will just give you problems down the road. Edited by Mark1959
01/30/2017 8:54 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Thanks for your input.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Could be a counterfeit but I think it's genuine with rough, harshly cleaned surfaces. Detail is close to XF but value is way down the scale from there. Die transfer struck counterfeits from China are so common (and good) these days that some get into PCGS and NGC holders. http://www.coinworld.com/news/us-co...its.all.html |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The reverse looks like their could be some graffiti. Above the left wing there looks like a M and with an attempt to remove the following letters.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It looks genuine but harshly cleaned to me but I am not an expert.
And yes BH it is scary how good some of the counterfeits are.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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EF-45, maybe AU-50 details (cleaned).
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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