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I have 5 more that are stumping me.

Here we go:

#1:
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I have no idea.
Measures 14 mm across.

#2:
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I was leaning towards Austria with this one. Only having the 20th century Krause certainly is slowing me down.

Measures 18 mm across.

#3:
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I can make out Ius and III. Reverse is a pattern I have never seen before.

Measures 28 mm across.

#4:
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"Pure copper preferable to paper". Looks like 1838.

Measures 32 mm across.

#5:
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Looks like a tree. Thats about all I cant really identify on this coin.

Measures 18 mm across.


Thanks in advance and have fun!
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 Posted 03/31/2008  2:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
#2 the legend is quite readable. It's from Prussia.

#3 the obverse looks like the portrait of George III used on Irish tokens, 1760~1820. I think there were quite a few reverses, but I've never looked at them much.

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#2 is a Groschen from the German State of Prussia.

#5 is from the Dominican Republic. Maybe a Centavo:

http://www.vcoins.com/world/ecin/st...=917&large=0
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To add to #2 if it helps pinning down the exact coin, it says "Friedrich Wilhelm III, King of Prussia".
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 Posted 04/01/2008  06:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
#1: I have two theories on this one. If it weighs 5.3 grams (3/16 of an ounce), it's a 3-dram weight, and the thing that looks like a "3" is really a dram symbol. If it weighs nowhere near that, then it's a token, and the "3" is really a "3".

#2: Prussian, as has been identified.

#3: Tricky. With the large six-spoked wheel, my first though was "German states", despite the similarity of the portrait to British king George III. The wheel features on the coinage of Mainz, and a couple of other cities (eg. Erfurt, Osnabruck) but I can't find a match for the portrait, or the name. It may be a token or evasion, as Peter said.

#4: "Pure copper preferable to paper" appears on many Canadian tokens. I can read "...AVIGAT..." on the other side, so this is one of the "Trade & Navigation" types. The Canadian ones are normally dated 1812 or 1813. If you can clearly read "1838" below the seated figure, that makes this one Charleton #203, Breton #967. This token has a note in my old Charleton catalogue, "Attributed to British Guiana", and indeed, if you look up "Guiana" in the 1800's Krause, there it is, KM# Tn3. So what you really have here is a 1 stiver token from British Guiana.

#5: Dominican Republic 1¢, as previously reported. I have to add, that this is the most heavily circulated Dominican coin I have ever seen.
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I do not agree with Sap this time about number 1 coin. It is a drei pfennig piece of a prisoner of war camp STALAG III, 30 km south of Berlin at Luckenwald, theoratically roulated in between the opening of the camp in september 1939, until the Russian Liberation of April 1945, which housed French, Belgian, Poliash, Italian, British and nearly 4000 American prisoner of War. Each prisoner of War camp had its number at the back of the coin in Roman numerals... there also were coins of 1, 2, 6 and 10 pfennig in different camps available.
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Fair enough.

Just had another look at the pics of number 3, and it looks more and more like a portrait of George III. I also noticed something odd I didn't notice before: notches, cut all the way around the rim on both sides. I haven't heard of coins or tokens being produced like that; presumably the coin was mounted at some stage. In which case, the wheel design may not have originally been on the coin, but engraved afterwards as a love token or piece of trench-art, and the coin was originally an ordinary British farthing or halfpenny of the early 1800's.
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Oh it's definitely a George III, I can tell through great familiarity, also you can just about make out the "IUS III" at the end of that. Isn't the petally-pattern on the reverse a little crude? I wish I knew what that was all about!
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