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Any Idea About These Silver Coins? Henry II, Edward I ?

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Just picked these up for not a lot of money, photos were not so clear so I thought I'd have a punt.

I'd appreciate it if anybody could tell me exactly what they are.
The largest measures 16mm in diameter, the next one 12.5mm in diameter and the smallest, 9.5mm.
Weight in order from largest goes: 1.0g, 0.5g and 0.4g.

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Largest coin looks like a long cross penny of Edward I, Canterbury mint, CIVITAS CANTOR reverse, Ref: SE-1389

Smallest coin looks like a long cross halfpenny of Edward I, London mint, CIVITAS LONDON reverse, Ref: SE-1435

The middle coin has the Tudor arms reverse, CIVITAS LONDON, parted by a long cross fourchee, beaded encirclement, with a crowned bust left obverse / beaded encirclement, which narrows it down to Elizabeth I. My guess would be the half-groat with E(lizabeth) D(ei) G(ratia) ROSA SINE SPINA obverse, Ref: SE-2578, but it may be a penny type.

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Agree on the largest coin but I believe the Liz is a 1d and the smallest an Ed 1
1/4d
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Yup, I'll concur w/Peter based on weight and diameter.
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Incredible as always,

Thank you very much Peter and Paralyse. A 1/4d was equal to one Farthing back then? Well actually my coin book says that 1672 Charles II were the first 'farthings', and that there are some Oliver Cromwell farthings, but they are extremely rare.
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https://24carat.co.uk/farthingstoryframe.html

A very good article from a respected dealer.
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Very informative, thank you Peter.
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I agree. Really great link @peter1234!
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The ferry across the Thames (before all the bridges) was a 1/4d hence many are found in the Thames mud.Thames mudlarkers who are licensed to search for these bring many to the market.Anyone interested in farthings I give you Aboutfarthings.com We all live happily together at Predecimal.com The knowledge is out there.Enjoy and share.
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