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Frederick The Great Thaler

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Came across this today, rather liked it for a few reasons. First, despite significant wear, its overall appearance just appealed to me. Although there are no visible hairlines, I can't discount the possibility that it was polished long ago and has since retoned, however.

I also like that it's from the last year of Frederick the Great's reign.

Finally, the "B" mint mark signifies it was struck in Breslau, which is in present day Poland (I'm of Polish ancestry on my father's side).

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Colligo ergo sum
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@lucky cuss, that is a great reichsthaler that you have there!
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That Reichsthaler has loads of character and historicity -- a very nice coin to have and appreciate. The patina is, well, sehr Schön! Makes me want to go add one of this type to my GS collection now. That poor bird on the reverse looks like a distant cousin of the Scrawny Eagle from early US Dollars.
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While it is not difficult to find the 1786-dated thalers, it is relatively uncommon for them to have any mintmark other than A. If it was cleaned, it has mostly retoned by now and the level of detail is good.
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It is a beautiful Thaler (although it has nothing to do with Barbarossa ;) )

Those late Thalers of Frederick the Great are actually not that scarce with the mint mark B. In Breslau that type was minted from 1780 until the death of Frederick the Great in 1786. From July 1785 to June 1786 624.987 of these Thalers were minted in Breslau. From July to December 1786 another 233.984 (which is actually a higher mintage for that period of a couple of months than the Berlin mint produced).

I like the fact that this coin is more personal to you as it was struck in Breslau. If I was you, I'd probably try now to get the 1786 B 1/3 Thaler. With these coins you'd have a complete set of silver Thaler & Thaler fragments of the Breslau mint for the period of 1775-1786 because other denominations such as 1/2, 1/4, 1/6, 1/12, 1/24 and 1/48 Thaler were not minted in Breslau in that period.
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Borussia and Barbarossa are two different things.
This ruler is never depicted with a beard.
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That poor bird on the reverse looks like a distant cousin of the Scrawny Eagle from early US Dollars.


Indeed. But I like the other martial elements present - flags, drums, cannon. Somehow it seems quintessentially Prussian.


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Borussia and Barbarossa are two different things.


You're absolutely correct, a silly error on my part. I've since corected the thread title.

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