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I'm thinking about getting the 7101 Dansco album and working on Indian Head cents for my 2017 project. Can this be done without breaking the bank? I know about the 1877 key date and a few varieties. I guess this album also includes the three Flying Eagle cents too (I have one in my 7070). I have about 20 IHCs in a storage tube (some were even pulled from pocket change many years ago), so I do have a bit of a start (although nothing uncommon). Hints, warnings, and words of wisdom are welcome.
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Without breaking the bank? That's fairly arbitrary, how BIG is your bank? Yea, the 1877 is a key, so are the 1908S, 1909S(high$), 1878, and then some minor semis like 1869,1870,1871 plus the illusive FE 1856. On my limited budget, I've been able to put together a fair rendering leaving the 09S,56FE,77,78 out with coins ranging FR01 to XF-45 details,cleaned, talking under $400. Help any?
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Thanks for the input. You mentioned the elusive 1856 Flying Eagle. I looked up the value and almost had a heart attack. Thankfully, the 1856 does not have a hole in the Dansco album, so scratch the Flying Eagle 1856 off the list.
Here are what I'm finding to be key dates/semi-key dates and varieties that might be harder to find: 1859, 1864 "L" bronze, 1869 over 69, 1876, 1877 (low mintage and classic key date), 1908-S and 1909-S (maybe add 1886 type 1 and type 2). I've also heard the 1869, 1870, 1871, and 1873 can be a bit pricey.
So, maybe a dozen or so challenging coins in the set. I don't see anything too scary (excluding the FE 1856 of course). Sounds similar to the Lincoln cents in a way.
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Remember the classic western movie: the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly? I was looking at the stash of IHCs and picked out a few examples to post. The Good:  The Bad:  The Ugly:  Reverse side of "the bad":  I had always assumed this was post mint damage, but after looking at it a bit closely, now I'm not sure. Is it possible this coin left the mint with this defect?
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1909 S is about $250, 1877 is about $300, and 1908 S is around $40.
I don't think it is that expensive of a set to complete.
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I love your good, bad, and ugly post! Great sense of humor suitably applied to the topic. ;-)
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It all depends on what grade do you want in your Dansco . You will probably not break the bank if you go with AG to VG. Anything after that will wind up costing you a pretty penny :) 
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My favorite coins are the IHC. I'm just glad that I didn't sell in the 1970 era when silver was high and I sold most silver I had. Copper and nickel were not high then. I managed to get my IHC and Flying Eagle collection looking decent, with a lot of Red unc and full liberty coins. I still need 10 to 12 to fill my book that are real hard now to find. I have a few that I wanted to up grade but may not happen unless I can trade etc. Good luck on your IHC`s Batboy
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Actually, I like your 'ugly' coin better than the 'bad' one.. 
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I'm definitely thinking lower grade circulated coins for the album. I'll get a slabbed Indian cent if I can find something interesting or really cool. There's a coin show in Wichita next weekend. Think I'll have fun digging through the IHC culls and see if I can find cheap hole fillers for the common dates. I can always upgrade later if I want. Quote: 1909 S is about $250, 1877 is about $300, and 1908 S is around $40. Let me know when you see another one of those 1877 IHC for $300 floating around, because the cheapest I can find is way more.
Edited by batboy 02/11/2017 2:01 pm
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Agree. He must be talking about AGs or problem coins. My advice: spend a little more and get a nice pleasing brown example of each date - you'll be glad someday. Don't waste your time on hole-fillers. 
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 , A set of hole fillers wont hold much value if any . Listen to the Frog ,he knows what he's talking about . 
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 Go for solid good examples at least. More sense of accomplishment completing a nice looking set than a ragged set.
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 I have way too many hole fillers in my collection and don't even enjoy pulling out the books to admire the coins. Take your time and be patient. 
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I put together a complete set of the Flying Eagle and Indian cents when I was a kid in the 1960s. I tried to complete the set in Fine or better, and succeeded except for a couple dates. Although the 1877 and 1909-S get most of the publicity, there are a lot of tough coins in the set. The 1872 is almost as tough as the 1877, and the 1869, 1870 and 1871 are just little bit easier. The 1869 over 9 used to be called an over date. Now it isn't, and for that reason I don't think that it's an essential part of the set. The 1864-L is a bit overrated in my opinion. I cherry picked a couple of them when I was kid. Still it's got a reputation so it's a bit expensive. Make sure you buy one with "L" visible. That "pointed bust stuff" doesn't cut it in my opinion. The heart of the set are the coins from 1866 to 1878. The mintages were lower in those years; the quality of the bronze that was used in those coins was not as good as it would be in later years; and not a lot of them were saved by collectors in the attractive circulated grades. One sleeper date is the 1886. I never could get one in any better than VG when I was kid. There are two types if you check your Red Book. The difference has to do with the placement of the feathers in the headdress. The Type II is tough as nails in high grade, and many of them were not well struck. When I was kid, the 1885 was supposed to be the "key date" in the 1880s, but then collectors and dealers learned that it wasn't. The 1908-S is available for a price. It's not overly scarce, but it's not cheap either. It is historically significant because it was the first base metal U.S. coin to be struck at a branch mint. Overall the Indian cent set is a lot of fun to collect. It covers the antebellum, Civil War and reconstruction eras, plus the gay nineties and early 1900s. The good thing about is that there are not a lot of mint marks to collect. Still the set is no pushover, especially if you want to collect coins without damage that are attractive for the grade. Even a set in Good can have its charms if the coins are not damaged or pitted.
Edited by billjones 02/12/2017 2:16 pm
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Look up coin shows in your area. At a decent coin show you could almost fill an entire Album with Indian cents. None are that horribly expensive except the 1856 Eagle. Other than that one, I've seen almost all of them at coin shows for decent prices.
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