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Help Idenifying This Confederate Civil War Item

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Hi
Does anyone have any information on this Co.B 41st Tenn. Vol. Inf. CSA item?
Thank You Mark

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I know very little about this type of item, but if it is genuine, it could be worth quite a bit. This stuff is reproduced/counterfeited all the time, though.

Your best bet may be to contact an expert on civil war memorabilia.
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Hi My grandfather had it. He was born in 1892 in Alabama and died in 1981. His Grandfather fought on the Confederate side during the Civil War. The name is not our family though.
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I'm no expert, but it resembles a Civil War ID badge. What I'm questioning is the dates of the war and the word "war" and the Confederate flag being stamped in (seemingly during the same time, not added later).

It looks like the upper section was taken from an actual wartime ID and the lower shield was added at least after the war was over.

Also, Cheatham is misspelled but may mean nothing.

Searching online, I found the upper piece style and the lower but not together like this.

My conclusion (while not knowing much) is that the upper piece is a genuine part of an ID badge and the lower shield was added at some point after the war ended.

I'm sure that doesn't help much, but maybe it will lead to the answer?
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Welcome to the CCF, Mark.

I'm always highly suspicious of pieces like this one. The 1960's in particular saw a great many fantasy and reproduction pieces made. Also, reenactors might have pieces made for themselves.

While I seriously doubt that your badge dates to the Civil War years, there's a possibility that it could be connected with Confederate reunions that were conducted well into the 1900's. The misspelling doesn't trouble me as much as the lack of Jones' rank. I'll look into this further, as time allows.

Is there a maker's mark on the backside of the badge? A pic of the reverse would help us see the pin mechanism. Also, when posting pics, please orient them to make it easier for the viewers. I rotated your pic below.

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If this is not someone's fantasy then it is most likely an item from The Grand Army of The Republic.

In the Civil War neither army used identifying tags or markers.

The GAR did however use ribbons and medals

I have seen precious few of them so I cannot say anything to its authenticity, but I have not seen one anything like this one.
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This appears to be a turn of the century Confederate reunion badge that would have been worn by the named gentleman as he gathered with surviving comrades at an anniversary of the war event. They were popular especially from 1890 to 1910 with many attendees still spry enough to travel back when horses and carriages were how one got around.
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w/ exoguy.

Appears to be reunion type badges used in veteran's day parades in late 1890's early 1900's about your grandfathers time. Do you recall him telling of particpating in any? Try an ancestral search for the name perhaps?
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Try an ancestral search for the name perhaps?


Good luck with "Jones" and just "JA"
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Tryna,

The Grand Army of the Republic = Union veterans

United Confederate Veterans was the equivalent organization for Confederate veterans
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I'm still awaiting a pic of the reverse .... Also, Mark, are there any markings on the badge or the box? ....

I'd like to see some more pics of the box which looks old. That's encouraging and makes a fantasy piece less likely.
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