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1857 Flying Eagle Cent

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Was offered this raw coin. Seller wants about MS60 retail. I think it grades higher than that at 62-63. Thoughts on grade and issues? Thanks.

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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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02/17/2017 2:54 pm
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 Posted 02/17/2017  2:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fayette1800 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice original coin, but I'm in the AU58 camp on this one. Doesn't appear to have any luster.
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 Posted 02/17/2017  2:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My opinion only, not mint state..AU-58 would cover it but nice.
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According to the Sheldon ANA grading guide, an AU58 coin would need to have almost full mint luster.
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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02/17/2017 3:05 pm
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Agree AU-58. High grade copper in particular often does not exhibit a great deal of luster.
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Looking at the reverse, do I see wear on high points of lower ribbon and side flowers? The obverse seems free of problems w/very slight hint of luster, not much. On that basis I'd give it MS60 front w/ AU58 rear. Not a truely even coin.
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02/17/2017 6:22 pm
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That's the way I like em, very nice.
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This coin has full AU58 sharpness but the luster is poor and the color is off, too dark and brown. Look under the eagle on the obverse and see what you see there. The big stain at the date would derail it a bit for me, and the reverse also has a lot of contact marks + a rim bruise @ K10-K11 area.
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That's a really nice FE! I know where I should see wear, and I'm not seeing much if any.
I generally suck at grading MS coins, so I'll leave it at that.
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02/17/2017 10:25 pm
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AU-58
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I am at AU-58 as well.
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This coin could be a low end Mint State piece. It certainly has a better than average strike with all of the detail showing. It all depends upon the amount of luster that pops up with the coin is swirled under a strong light source. The photo makes it look dull with no luster.
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Great example..but don't overpay based on emotion..
I wouldn't pay more than $250 for it.....good luck!
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Thanks folks!
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
My coin website:https://fairfaxcoins.com
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