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1990-P Jefferson Nickel Woody

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I found this crhing. I just thought I'd share it with ya'll. Comments/opinions always welcome.


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 Posted 02/19/2017  7:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slamnbass to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very cool look to that CM thanks for sharing!
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 Posted 02/19/2017  7:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinMasters to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You bet. I know you like these Slamn. Thanks for looking.
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 Posted 02/19/2017  8:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oldmike to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
good one CM
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 Posted 02/19/2017  8:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinMasters to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Oldmike, glad you like it. I think the reverse is best.
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 Posted 02/19/2017  9:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Debrajc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like it!

Great find.
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If I had one, I would try sand paper on it to show that the lines are just on the surface and not through the coin like woody coins are. I'd take a before and after shot to show the differences. When looking at this coin, you can see that the lines are already worn off the tops of the raised devices. Proving my point that they are only superficial and not though the coins metal.
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Wow, I really like that coin. Good find!
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Thanks everyone for the positive comments. Coop, we've already been through this, believe me I get no pleasure disagreeing with you. You know your stuff, but in my opinion Woodys ain't your stuff. Go back and re-read some of those posts. This is definitely a Woody. Notice how the lines line up front and back. It's a clad Woody. The lines on these and the older ones are not necessarily expected to go all the way through. Mike's theory on their cause is related to roller marks. Mine is it's in the metal, whether all the way through or not.
As far as the Purist varieties and errors go, I doubt very seriously I'll ever acquire the knowledge you have. It is my hope that you will continue to help me with them. More than that, it is my hope that we can occasionally disagree and remain friends.
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If I were to use sand paper, (makes me cringe typing that) it would be the finest grit used under strict control.

Think I'd rather use a 1000 grit or finer wet stone and compare one of the older traditional woody against one modern with a straight line appearance.

That said I do not believe its necessary with this coin. Maybe wrong, but the high points seem to show the lines are not present or broken up as it is.

If the straight lines are present on obverse and reverse running in the same direction, one could assume if an alloy mix issue afoot, it would be running throughout the depth or center of the coin as well. Maybe more time is needed to re-tone after wear?

So I'm still on fence until I conduct my own experiments. Thanks, Doug.
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Even if one did try this I don't think the sandpaper would work-you would be obliterating the lines and metal mix as you go. A perfect slice through the coin sonmehow would probably be the only way
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very cool coinmaster .....i hate to say it but I sent a couple like this back into circulation & now I feel like a pleep ...darn it ...i will keep them from now on..oh well, I'm still learning everyday
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Many Woodys are only on one side, even then, not always on the whole side.

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The lines on these and the older ones are not necessarily expected to go all the way through. Mike's theory on their cause is related to roller marks. Mine is it's in the metal, whether all the way through or not.

Glad you like it Ter215. We are both learning everyday - it beats the alternative.
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Very nice coinmasters! Great find !
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Thanks PBP. glad you like it. There's prettier ones, I consider this one 5 or 6 on the ten scale with 1 for being two sided. It's all about the numbers.
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Many Woodys are only on one side, even then, not always on the whole side.


I agree, that's an inconsistent characteristic I'd expect to see from an incomplete mix of alloy, same as insufficient mixing of paint with tint added or a cake mix batter that's not thoroughly mixed.

The consistent "straight lines" showing up more around the 1980's era to date does leave room to question the cause. Why are they showing consistently straight all of sudden and seem to fade away with minimal wear.

Since I'm not the one mixing the alloys, nor rolling the stock to thickness, I can only speculate. That said I can see Mike's point of a possible cause, or at least a cause that needs to be more thoroughly researched or pondered for now. Thanks, Doug.
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