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New Member
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Hello All, Newbie here,only my second post.I was just looking through a penny roll and found this 1987 Lincoln with what looks like a extra die strike.I was looking through my 30x loupe(it is very tiny).I am very curious as to what caused this.Can anybody out there help in making heads or tails out of this one?Thanks again for your knowledge on my first post,it was much appreciated.Joe  |
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Pillar of the Community
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Can you post a picture of the full obverse? I can't really tell what I'm looking at. I think it's the right side of Lincoln's bust because those look the like the folds of his jacket, but the lettering to the top right of your picture doesn't look like a date to me.
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 w/ druu, need larger both sides too. It does seem like something is between rim and coat? ikke a letter E, but will wait for pix!  To the family! |
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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It is Lincoln's coat and the bottom of "19". I am curious about the curiosity  because it looks like a raised E or B on the rim that must have been created by a die but I don't know how...   Although, it could be incuse (hard to tell) and would have easier explanations.  Edit: Like others have said, posting clear pics of the entire coin, both sides, may help us to see something else that may lead to an explanation.  Double Edit: Ignore the black areas on the OP's pic, it's just the paint bucket filling in highlights. In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
Edited by spru
02/21/2017 02:23 am
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Valued Member
United States
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If incuse, could it be some dirt that was stuck in in the E or B of LIBERTY fell out and was struck into the coin? (I don't know) |
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New Member
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Hello All, I will try and send some more pictures.Looking closer it is incuse,and it is right below the year of the penny.Any suggestions would be great  Thanks,Joe  |
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Aww, incuse is bad. That was likely caused by a hit to the coin after it was minted. A raised letter there would have been something though!
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By the looks of it, it got kissed by another coin...smashed into it causing an imprint. Most likely the E in a Lincoln Cent "LIBERTY" but may have been another denomination entirely, don't think so tho. Would be interesting to see what rim did to B of other coin! |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Now that we know it's incuse, then I think another coin being impressed on to it is the most likely explanation. I think I might see where the secondary coin's rim overlapped OP's coin.
Can you have a struck through dropped letter on the rim?
In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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I had a moment of free time on my hands, and I got distracted before sorting through some 1983 cents. Here are a few pictures that confirm our crowd sourced theory is correct. I wasn't able to line up in the same spot as OP's coin, and I didn't really want to dig for more 1980s Zincolns. (The rims on 1990s and 2000s cents weren't as conducive to this.)   |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Thanks for posting that Druu! It looks like the same anomaly. I wonder if it has anything to do with the rim abnormality from about 2-5 o'clock on yours. I'm still waiting for the Big Dawgs to weigh in but, maybe this one is left to us on purpose...  In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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02/22/2017 03:38 am
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United States
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Oops, I forgot to clarify. That's me with Two Cents, a pair of pliers, and a folded sheet of paper so I wouldn't leave marks on the reverse. Because it's incuse on OP's coin, I'm going with PMD. I just decided to see if I could recreate the damage. I didn't pay close attention to the condition of the coin before messing with it, so I don't know if the rim was like that originally. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Measure with another coin to see if the rim would hit that area with the 'E' or an 'B' touching that area. If so it looks like a hammer job between two pieces of wood with another coin. It the reverse is affected then it might be from three coins. But it looks like damage to me.
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02/22/2017 10:24 am
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New Member
United States
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Wow!You guys rule  oo Thanks so much for the research and great comments To bad it is incuse..it would have been a fun one if not. Till next time..have a great day!Joe |
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