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1989 Roosevelt Dime With Very Messy Reverse

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 Posted 02/27/2017  7:37 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add karbruk to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello, folks. I am a newbie and this is my first post though I've found it very interesting reading your posts. I have a 1989 Roosevelt dime that has multiple Cuds on the reverse and almost looks as if it were stamped on top of something else. I'd like your thoughts on it. I'm a little cloudy on what you encompass in the term "error coin". Does that include Cuds as well as strike errors and clipped plancets? I hope my photos are sufficiently clear. I would appreciate any insights you might give me.

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 Posted 02/27/2017  8:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RoyCoinBoy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like an extremely late die state, among countless other things I wouldn't even be able to try to touch down on.
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 Posted 02/27/2017  9:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Druu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can I say it? Can I say it? DIE CLASH! (Maybe.) I think I see markers on the obverse under Roosevelt's nose and in front of his eyes. Die clash wouldn't account for the messy reverse though. I agree with Roy on Die Deterioration for that. I'm attaching a dime overlay that I stole from one of Coop's posts. You can check your coin against that to see if you find any more die clash markers.

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 Posted 02/27/2017  9:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Halo1st to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have some thoughts, but they keep changing every time I look closer. Thanks, Doug.
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 Posted 02/27/2017  9:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Druu, maybe, but...the marks between STATES and the flame look more like hairlines...?...only way for that to happen (directionally) is a vise job.

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 Posted 02/27/2017  10:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add karbruk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Except that those marks do not appear to be indentations...more like the A was impressed into it. Thanks for your opinions, guys.
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 Posted 02/27/2017  10:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Druu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Do you mean hairlines as in hairline scratches, or imprints from Roosevelt's hair? The features of the reverse seem too raised to be a vise job -- torch looks a but worn, but lacks indentations from being smushed against another coin. I keep a Die Deterioration Roosie on hand, but the mess is on its obverse. Someone linked to an ebay sale where one of those went for $17-ish, so I haven't set it free. I could grab a picture of that if you want?
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The raised blemishes on the reverse are not die chips, let alone " Cuds". They're "blebs" (die erosion pits), a manifestation of Die Deterioration.
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That's sure an interesting coin...some of those marks look very deep in the die. Probably die chips on a very worn die--but I'm not positive.
Update--Mike Diamond has responded--that's all I need to know.
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