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What Would You Grade This 1885 O Morgan

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It's in a PCGS ogh.

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64. Something funky going on in the high point above the ear.

Would be 65 without the funk.
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Think that spot is just the lighting.
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can you post a close up of that area? The high points are the 1st places someone grading the coin would look at.
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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Even the sample on PCGS for ms66 looks like this. https://www.PCGS.com/photograde/#/Morgan/Grades
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No it's an ebay item
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It looks like discoloration on the hair and the ear. It could be toning (good), mark (bad), or rub (disastrous). Since you said in the other thread this is MS65, it looks like the grader chalked it up as toning. 65 if toning, 64 if its a mark and 58 if it is rub. I can only grade what I see.
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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Yes it most likely is toning or lighting. Seems like a lot of bu morgans have that area a little darker than other hair spots. Not sure why but the one I linked is ms67 so I don't think they would grade it 65 if it was contact or rub.
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It looks like an MS-65 to me.
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Weak strike. Pretty coin though. The cheek is clean of any deep scratches, just light scuffs, so I'd go MS-65. I wouldn't be surprised if PCGS gave it a conservative grade like 64 since its an ogh.
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Nice..MS-65
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boarderline MS65 l
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I'm at 64.
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