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1980-D LMC Woody Obverse And Reverse

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I love this coin ! Got it in change . 1980D LMC woody ( roller lines)

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Not a REAL woody there Potbelly, but it'll do!
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 Posted 03/03/2017  12:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Potbellypub to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Roller lines right?
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Think so, just too even side to side on each side. the lines follow the contours.
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Thanks crazybo!
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Yes,roller lines. But that green junk would make me toss it back.
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It must be the lighting john1 I looked at it again and I don't see that in hand , it's a nice brown .
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Nice find PBP. It's definitely a Woody, both sides. There are several theories as to the cause, but it's not known for sure. The only way to know would be to conduct a study at the mint, but they won't cooperate.
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thanks coinmasters ! The folks at the mint shouldnt be that way towards their biggest fans lol.
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Again note. How the tops of the devices where some metal is missing, the roller lines are not visible. So to me they are topical, not through the hold planchet like a woody coin would be.
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thanks coop . I think someone on the forum needs to find a mint employee and buddy up to them lol.
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I don't know if it's my eyes or what, but it looks to me like there is a planchet issue on the line running behind Lincoln's ear. I'd keep it anyway Poly
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Do you mean the darkest line ? I'll have to get it back out and look . Thanks oldmike it's already in a 2x2 .
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That so cool. I love the wood look!
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Again note. How the tops of the devices where some metal is missing, the roller lines are not visible. So to me they are topical, not through the hold planchet like a woody coin would be.

Roller lines not being visible on the tops of some of the devices is consistent with the roller lines theory because they are only formed on the surface of the coin to begin with. Unfortunately, it's also consistent with the traditional theory that Woodys are caused by improper metal, in which case it may or may not go all the way through the coin. Both theories are logical conjecture.
What we do know.. is there are many old and modern Woodys that only show on part of one side, or all on both sides, or anywhere in between. Woodys can sometimes be found on any denomination of any composition of any coin, including clad and silver coins. The stripes on coins can be wide apart, or close together. They can be evenly or unevenly spaced. They can span the length of the coin or be only part way. They do however, go in the same general direction, and when on both sides, they match up - as the OP's coin does.
I've touched on the theories and the facts, now if there's no objections I'll share my opinion. (pause) None noted, thank you. lol I believe both theories are correct depending on the coin. The wider spaced and sometimes mixed color Woodys look to me like improper metal. This can account for the often accompanying Lamination errors also. The narrower and evenly spaced Woodys look to me like roller lines errors, which is consistent with Mike's theory of improper heat and roller lines. They are often evenly and monochromatically discolored.
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Thanks cldauge and coinmasters ! I still say some one on the forum needs to get a job at the mint . Anyone live in a mint town ? Looking for a change ? Thanks so much for the replies all of you I learn something every time I find something new !
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