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I am confused about the use of "Details".
Sometimes it seems to be used to indicate some problem with a coin - like scratches, corrosion, or cleaning.
Other times it seems to be used to indicate that the coin shows a good strike with all/most parts of the Obverse/Reverse clearly visible.
What does "Details" mean?
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Both, details as in the hair lines in a draped bust large cent, and details as in the coin is corroded.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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On a TPG Label, details is bad. It means a damaged or altered coin. In a general description, it's a modifier. Fine details. -----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/ |
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United States
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The same problem as when a person calls their coin "good".
Or "fine".
Grade or descriptive adjective?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I often use the term devices. That included the letters, numbers and bust and building is often used. But the design like on the 50 states and the ATB Quarters reverses could also be called devices. (as they are not buildings, but designs) |
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details.. cleaned, corroded, impaired,damaged..
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I had a nice coin in an ANACS holder. It had plating bubbles and some discoloration just about everywhere except the doubled devices. It was labeled UNC Details. I took it to mean the doubled devices.
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United States
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That means it would be Uncirculated but could not be assigned a numerical grade because of some problem. In this instance details is bad.
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Be careful however with the play on words sellers often use with the word details. Yes, details is bad if seen on slabs. It's good when describing a raw coin as having nice details. But I've seen the word details thrown into ebay titles and descrptions in ways that could be viewed as misleading or deceptive. To me it is one way a sellercovers his butt without actually saying a coun has issues. I think this might be what the OP and others find confusing. Example and exhibit A is the ebay coin described as "coin has nice details" vs "nice details coin". |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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So, in general, the term "Details" is misleading. How can plating bubbles garner "Details?" If there is a "Details" grade then it should be specifically qualified as to why.
Maybe TPGs should use "Problem" instead, as we say an example is a problem coin. The word 'details' doesn't imply a problem or anything negative.
I also find the ambiguous terminology frustrating at times.
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03/05/2017 01:48 am
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Thanks, folks, for your responses! For one thing - it is as I suspected.  At least I now know that I am not crazy (for this one instance, anyway).  |
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On a "details" slab the word should always be paired with a condition term, like UNC, VF, AG, etc. It refers to the condition grade that would be applied based on the level of wear, IF the coin did not have a problem. For example, suppose you have a Morgan dollar that has wear corresponding to a condition grade of Extremely Fine, but has a big scratch. The TPG grade would be "XF Details, Scratched". "Details" coins will always be valued lower than a "straight grade" coin, with the discount being proportional to the degree of impairment. |
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Depends on the TPG. Some list the specific problem, some don't, some (e.g. PCGS) use a code # (92 = cleaned) http://www.PCGS.com/grades/ and click on nogrades). -----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/ |
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