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Seated Liberty Dollar: Is It EF Or More Of A VF?

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 Posted 03/06/2017  9:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Biedercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Thanks Mike, I kind of like the look of that first one, the EF. Fits in with the rest of my series.

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 Posted 03/07/2017  09:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add billjones to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Seated dollars are one of the most frustrating coin types to collect.


Definitely true!

Unlike Morgan dollars, the Seated dollars were not stored in government bags for many years with a couple of exceptions (1859-O and 1860-O). They were put into circulation.

Advanced collectors like circulated Seated dollars that have gray to medium gray toning, but a lot of average collectors don't like that look. They prefer something that looks like the Mint State Morgan dollars, and that's where the trouble starts.

Many Seated dollars have cleaned and dipped to make them look shiny. Sometimes, as is the case with the pieces that started this string, the coins are cleaned and can't get a straight grade from the TPGs. Coin doctors then apply a layer of artificial toning to fix that. Those coins also often "flunk" when they are submitted for grading.

Unless you have a lot of money and can afford a high grade, Mint State Seated dollar, chances are you are not going to like a lot of the pieces that are offered. If you are on a strict budget, you might end up settling not selecting a coin you love, if you want it to have a straight TPG grade.

Some of the pieces that have artificial toning can look decent. I had one in my type set for years. Here it is. This piece flunked at the TPGs when I submitted it for grading.

When I was dealer I sold it to another dealer, with the explaination as to what it was. It would be a piece that would go very nicely into a Dansco 7070 type coin album.

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 Posted 03/07/2017  10:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Biedercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

billjones, I like your '72 and I wouldn't know how to differentiate it from a coin that had built up that color all by itself. In fact, I have blue Ikes that are just that color from the failure of the seal on their mint wrapping. Maybe the next time I have money to squander I'll submit one of those Ikes and see how they come back.
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Some of the pieces that have artificial toning can look decent.

Hence the reason that there are no value guides pricing cleaned coins. Because cleaned coins can range from atrocious eyesores, to others that have retoned over time and are quite beautiful, albeit ungradeable.
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