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1995-D LMC Looks Like DDO-?

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In my infinite foolishness I have decided to try and hunt down a 1995-D DDO-001. So, while I don't think this is such a beast, it does look like a DDO but I can't find any matching die markers. Closest seems to be 1DO-005 (WDDO-004) but again, no markers.

I am seeing a notch in the tail of the 5, something like doubling on the lower serif of the D, and something going on with LIB northeast corners. I think the mark across the horizontal bar of the second T in TRUST may be a normal thing for this year (not talking about zinc above the T), but not sure.

So, am I just looking too close or is there something going on here? Thanks!



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Looks like Die Deterioration is setting in on the die. Note how the areas affected fall into this pattern of die wear towards the rim. Right sides of date. Left sides of LIBERTY and the tops of the Motto.
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This not hub doubling. It is a normal die that is showing its age.
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Coin certainly shows some obvious signs of Die Deterioration. But I am more interested in the signs of possible doubling, shown with arrows here (plus the notch-like area on the NE corners of LIB.




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Too close for Govt work! You'll make yourself blind, stop it now! We may have to have an intervention...

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Hey Crazy, you better intervene now! Have you seen how trivial some of the DDO-001 Lincoln cents are? Clearly they were labeled by first come first numbered and not in order of strength.

Here is what I am after, from CONECA website:



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The slightest little doubling!

Still a neat coin.
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Sorry, it is Die Deterioration Doubling. All of the haze of the doubling is in the direction of the closest rim from the center. That is the best marker for me to determine it is DDD. This is not Hub Doubling.
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I can definitely see what appears to be splithe serit's on the mint mark. We all can see the date is just Die Deterioration but I like the way the mint mark looks.
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The other areas on the DDO-001 are doubled a lot more:
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It looks like a doubled die to me. I'm not sure which one yet, there are many for that year and mint.

The best chance of identifying it would be to look for some other die markers.
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So I toned back the contrast and saturation on the date photo--easier to see details that way.
Dunno...I see something on the D, but I'm not the expert on Lincoln DDOs.

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Thulium, can't be a split serif like we're used to, MM was cut into master die. Must be MD on MM?
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Yep--the D is hubbed into the die, so a double die can show up in the mintmark.
On Coppercoins, I see 5 DDOs listed which show doubling on the mintmark. Not saying this is one--I can't make the call.
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Coop, you posted pics of 003, a very strong DDO which I would love to find along the way. 1D0-001 is no where near that strong on the Coppercoins pics although they do not include the motto (assume nothing of note there to show).

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But as I said at the very beginning, I do not think this is DDO-001, that is just what I am searching for. DDO-001 has a small notch on the pointy bit of the five, my coin has a notch on the tail of the five. Plus LIB look wrong.

And yes, the mint mark is doubled on a lot of those varieties, something I am keying on in my search since there is only so much doubling to see. For the coin posted, the closest I can come up with is WDDO-006 in a different die stage than pictured.
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I should have put in pics of WDDO-006, so here they are from Doubleddie.com



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And a close up of the doubling on 19 of my coin, if that is doubling I see here.



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Not sure this one is going to get figured out, but thanks so much for all the help and comments!
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