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This is a Type 1 Proof SBA from 1979. Thoughts on a grade? Thanks in advance.    |
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Who was it that said "There's a sucker born every minute"? I have some oceanfront property just outside of Reno, good future investment potential, will let go CHEAP! TODAY ONLY! I'll pay a buck for it, you cover the s & h, OK?  |
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Who was it that said "There's a sucker born every minute"?
I have some oceanfront property just outside of Reno, good future investment potential, will let go CHEAP! TODAY ONLY!
I'll pay a buck for it, you cover the s & h, OK?  Wut does that have to do with anything Edited by True_Numismatist
03/12/2017 5:26 pm
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United States
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With the Eagle's talons worn away I don't think it would make anymore that AU50 -- and maybe mot even that. But I an not an expert at grading.
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So its not a proof by the looks of it just a solid MS63 64 SBA.. The Talons are known to be bad on some of these coins.. The magic is finding a high grade full Talon! |
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Why was I snarky? You asked for a grade on a "proof" coin. That IS NOT a proof coin, nor is it a MS business strike. The scratch patterns on the obverse indocat it is a circulated coin, not just " bag marks" but minor miscellaneous direction scratches indicative of coin to coin contact , hence ,pocket change. The deep dings, rim, star 3, R of Liberty, the collar, face, high areas slight wear, that's just the obverse, shall I go on? It is the filled S, narrow rim (far date) standard business strike, mintage of 109,576,000 (that's 1/10 of a billion!). Red Book lists MS63 @ $2, Any this less is....$1. Now is my snatky response making sense? Thought YOU were pulling our legs, trying to pass off what isn't, if that was offensive, I apologize. We see fakes, overgrades, false claims on coins all the time in the buy/sell market. BTW, a proof coin has very polished "fields" the flat areas and the details are much stronger, these are seen as a cameo effect, a shiny/matte effect...see it here? How about HERE...shoulda done this to begin with, forgot I had it  Edited by Crazyb0
03/12/2017 6:30 pm
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The Talons are known to be bad on some of these coins. I did not know that -- so thanks for that bit of information. I happen to like SBA's. I keep every one that comes my way. |
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I standby my grade and have been wrong but with apparent luster and strike and given photos it looks ms63 to me..The OP may not have the knowledge you havy Crazyb0 and have thought that since it was an S mint it was a proof.. It happens and is okay.. In this photos provided I dont seem to see any wear on the high points cheek, button, hair..
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I dont seem to see any wear on the high points cheek, button, hair.. That had me confused. I don't see signs of wear and yet the talons were just blobs. It seems that every coin -- even every year -- has its own foibles. I read a few articles on grading SBA's (trying to learn) but they were all about the last few top grades so I resorted to PCGS photograde. Nice pics there and that's when I got focused on the talons. It's good to learn.  By the way, until a few months before I joined this site, I thought that all S Mint Marks were proofs.  |
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Did a little bit of manipulation on OP's coin. Do this on coins when I'm looking to buy, just to highlight the imperfections...you decide.  |
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Thanks all for your knowledge. I thought that the S mint mark was a proof, because many sources I found on the Internet said that there are two types of proof-S mint marks, filled (like I have) and clear. I guess I was wrong. Always learning something new here!   Crazyb0, what did you do to the photo of my coin? Were you trying to make it look in a worse grade? |
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True Numismatist, that's a trick I developed to help me on deciding on buying a coin or in determining if its a fake. All the "uglies" come out to play. The higher contrast enhances outline of the devices and shows any pebbling in the fields (flat), the true sign of a cast fake, also shows tooling marks and obvious blemishes. Yes I know it "looks" terrible but that is how I can honestly tell you the coin has seen some circulation, that right there puts it at the highest possible grade of AU-58...because there is slight wear it becomes a solid AU-55, not bad for a coin that's on a world tour!
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Thanks all for your knowledge. I thought that the S mint mark was a proof, because many sources I found on the Internet said that there are two types of proof-S mint marks, filled (like I have) and clear. I guess I was wrong. No, that is correct -- there are two types of proof-S mint marks, but there is also an S-mint business strike for the SBA dollar, which is what you have. |
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Interesting discussion on the worst-looking coin in our nation's long history.
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Is not!  I really like these. |
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