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RCM New Release: 2017 My Canada, My Inspiration Special Wrap Roll Collection

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Royal Canadian Mint - The collection comes beautifully packaged in a collector case for a more elegant presentation and display. Everything is in one place—each of the five Canada 150 rolls is individually nestled in a flocked insert, which is easily removed to retrieve the certificate from the recessed area beneath it.

2017 My Canada, My Inspiration Special Wrap Roll Collection
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So with this one do you know how many glow in the dark to regular toonies are in a roll.
Also the same for the coloured quarter and regular quarter.
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In the question/answer section it says about a ratio of 2:1 uncoloured.
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Thats not a bad ratio if it holds true.
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Does anyone know if the coloured quarter and GITD $2 will come in regular cellophane wrap rolls? The non coloured ones are already available for all denominations now in regular wrap.
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I am so disappointed with this set CCF Press!!

I paid $185.00 plus taxes to get these special boxed rolls and they are a botched job. Some of my special INSPIRATIONAL rolls came double headed which means I am unable to show the back of the coins. RCM needs to take all these sets back and replace them with what they are advertising. Quality assurance should get a slap on the wrist for allowing these rolls to get through unless they were advised by management to just put them in the boxed sets anyway to save $$$$$$$$$$.

I will be returning my boxed set until I get what I paid for. Heads and Tails.
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I will be returning my boxed set until I get what I paid for. Heads and Tails.

While I understand that you are disappointed, I'm afraid you were delivered exactly what the RCM promised - rolls of the news coins in special wrappers - nothing more.

The RCM did not ever make a claim that the rolls would be wrapped so that you would see different sides on each end of the roll. While I'm sure many collectors made such an assumption, the RCM never claimed such.

In fact, it responded to a customer question about it with the following:

"Thank you for your question. Due to the nature of the large volumes with this automated assembly process, we cannot control how the coins are wrapped in these rolls. The order of the coins will vary."

I wish you the best with getting a replacement set that meets your expectations, but what you've already received was not a "botched job" - it was simply a matter of your expectations not being in line with what the RCM said all along it was going to deliver.


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Thank you @ commems

I appreciate what you say. I bought this set for my newborn granddaughter and it would have been nice, in years to come, to be able to see the back of the nickel. Especially since this was designed by a very young girl. I guess I will have to make sure a photocopy of the nickel design and loonie design is inserted into the box.
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I do see the other side of paying double face and taxes you should expect a little more than a regular run of the mill roll, this will only happen if enough collectors complain and return items to RCM. The RCM could easily adapt the rolling procedure to create head tail rolls if they chose to
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Rolling the dice with rolls....hmmm
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The RCM could easily adapt the rolling procedure to create head tail rolls if they chose to

Can you please explain, with specifics, the process changes required?


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They could just easily manually select head and tail rolls, sure would slow the process down, but you are charging a hefty premium for these special roll, nice case but sort of ruin the whole purpose with the random packaging. Not sure if these rolls are third party rolled, if so the extra labour cost will even be less.
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Not sure if these rolls are third party rolled, if so the extra labour cost will even be less.


You can pretty much be assured that most of the circulation coin packaging (e.g., coin sets, special paper rolls, etc., is done in a separate, third-party facility.
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You can pretty much be assured that most of the circulation coin packaging (e.g., coin sets, special paper rolls, etc., is done in a separate, third-party facility.


Except when they aren't. This looks like a Mint employee to me shown here inspecting and boxing the Stanly Cup special wrap quarters.

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Seem unlikely to me that a unionized shop allows outsourcing but I suppose it's possible.
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The RCM did not ever make a claim that the rolls would be wrapped so that you would see different sides on each end of the roll. While I'm sure many collectors made such an assumption, the RCM never claimed such.

In a way RCM actually did make this claim. Some RCM stock photos of this set clearly show the reverse for the toonie, loonie, and quarter at the end of the roll. The dime and nickel rolls are slightly tilted to obscure the coin. Therefore, RCM indicates that the buyer will receive what is advertised. I call this deception. Even my dealer told me that they were "warned" about the double headers. The mint has been inundated with complaints about this set.

Not everyone reads the comments at the mint's site because they trust the RCM, and most likely didn't see the comment in the Questions section about "the order of the coins may vary."

This is a unique set of rolls created by regular Canadians, sold with a black case, to commemorate Canada's 150th anniversary. "Historic collectable." These are not just regular rolls.

Collectors have the right to be justifiably angry.
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Some RCM stock photos of this set clearly show the reverse for the toonie, loonie, and quarter at the end of the roll. The dime and nickel rolls are slightly tilted to obscure the coin. Therefore, RCM indicates that the buyer will receive what is advertised.

No where in the core text description for the set does it promise that the rolls will have each side of the coin exposed. Pictures are there to supplement the text descriptions, they are not a "contractual" obligation (e.g., the images are often not of the final or actual product).


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