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1886 Morgan Dollar - Grade?

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A couple questions:

What is the grade?

Has Liberty been cleaned?

Thank you!

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Best to take the coin out of the holder when taking photos. These photos make it hard to see what the surfaces really look like.
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Yes - have another go at it.
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Please don't clean that coin as the tone is lovely. Remove the coin from the holder it's in as it looks too soft and may contain PVC which can harm coins.

Better photos out of the plastic will be necessary for a better grade opinion.
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The coin in these photos is actually outside of the plastic slip sitting on top it.
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If the photos are truly accurate, MS65 to MS66, with a weak obverse strike and only a couple of scattered marks on the reverse. The toning is delicious and this coin needs to be left 100% original and not handled, cleaned, wiped, rubbed, or otherwise have its surfaces disturbed in any way.
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It looks weakly struck based on the definition of the hair, but the lock above the ear looks too white and I'm going to opine that it is rub. Same with several feather tips in the right wing. I am at AU58, but if those spots weren't rub, I would be at MS64. Looks like luster is too muted for 65-66.

In any event, it is a beautiful coin.
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I'm going to take some higher quality photos with my camera and post them later tonight.
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Took a couple more photos, hopefully this gives you guys a better view.

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MS65 here. Bit concerned on the symmetrical field toning, but almost absent on the face profile. Its a beauty David44. AG
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Leaning more toward 64 now. I think the two marks under the right wing also keep it from 65. Thanks for the beautiful pictures.

If it were my coin, I would grade it at 64 but ask for 66 money due to the beautiful toning. It is a stunner.
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I would have it graded, because of that toning! Toned coins go for crazy money on ebay. I will say MS 65.
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Thank you for all the great replies! I'll probably send it in to be graded and see what happens.
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