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Xx Century Ofec Colection - Last 2 X Countries

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Few days ago I accidentally bought a coin which brings me almost to the end of full XX century OFEC colection


Nagorno-Karabakh - 25 000 drams 1998, Ag

Xx-Century-Ofec-Colection---Last-2-X-Countries

Xx-Century-Ofec-Colection---Last-2-X-Countries

So now I need only 2 x more countries ;) - I have 311 / 313 existing in XX century
I bought it from http://gndm.pl/ so I hope, really really hope, this coin is not a fake from China (there are few on ebay)


The last two is Zanzibar (cents from 1908) and Tajikistan 20 roubles 1999 - I wrote about it here: http://goccf.com/t/238891
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I wanted to mention the Kyrgyzstan 20 tyjyn 1994 patterns, but apparently there's a legitimate 20th century Kyrgyzstan coin (another obscure silver issue), and you have one of those already.

Anyway - incredible quest! It sounds like something I'd want to do myself if/when I ever end up having that kind of money... right now I only have 264 countries in my Numista collection, and many of them are not from the 20th century.
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I am on a different sort of OFEC project, but with more modest and easier to achieve goal:

OFEC: One From Every Century, from the invention of coinage.

26 coins in all, each representative to the century in which it was minted.
The collection may develop and expand, to include as many as 100 coins, because I may think about including
One from Every Culture, over the 26 century period.

A very basic statement of the development of coinage of the World, over the last 26 centuries.
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I am on a different sort of OFEC project, but with more modest and easier to achieve goal:

OFEC: One From Every Century, from the invention of coinage.

26 coins in all, each representative to the century in which it was minted.
I'm actually working on that one as well (thank you for inspiration!), but I'm having trouble finding any coins before the 3rd century BC that I could afford. (Maybe I'm just not looking in the right places?)

Having recently bought a 8th century AD coin from Bukhar Khudat (pending more precise identification, but I'm fairly confident of the century), I now also finally have more than half of the Middle Ages period (still missing 7th, 10th, 11th and 14th centuries... and the best I have for 13th is this squashed nail).
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@sel_691, I would be very interested to see your list of different Culture, and of course how you decide what is a distinct culture, as opposed to a distinct Country.

In the OFEC group I used to belong to, everytime a country changed its government, that was a new line for the checklist. So, for example, Germany starting in 1900 would have:

Empire
Weimar Republic
Third Reich
Allied Occupation
East Germany
West Germany
Unified Germany
European Union

Or something like this.

Plus all the states that issued their own coinage.

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@ Oriole:
Cultures in the broadest sense.

Ancient Greek, Roman, Celtic, Byzantine, Indian, Chinese, Parthian, Sassanian, Islamic, South East Asian, medieval Western European, modern milled European, and machine struck World coinages.

Some collectors are specialists.
Perhaps my collecting approach could be termed 'generalist'.
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@sel_691, an interesting way to do it, just dipping your toes in. Not a bad way to do it, especially in the ancients, which I have sort of been trying to do, but maybe just a bit less general.
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Wow, that's really generalist. I'd say that most people on CCF would hardly ever stray out of the "machine struck world coinage" category (with perhaps the occasional slip into "modern milled European").

I recently got myself a Yemenite pentagonal (1/8 riyal) - those must have been perhaps the last circulating coins that didn't fit in this category. Of course, even if they weren't, they're quite unique anyway.
(My example is from 1949, and the type was made until 1961, but if I didn't know I would never have guessed it was 20th century.)
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Fascinating coin from a region I had never heard of before!

Just out of curiosity, what is your "cutoff" between a country to collect versus what you consider a fantasy or otherwise not worthy of collecting? I think we had a discussion on it before, and there are some interesting perspectives on what does and doesn't qualify.
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Your coin is a fantasy issue, as Nagorno-Karabakh has never issued circulation coinage. It still has it's place in your OFEC if you are using numista as your guide.

See list below, with full credit going to CCF member SAP for preparing it and sharing it on a previous OFEC thread.

COIN-ISSUING COUNTRIES: 208
Afghanistan
Albania
Algeria
Andorra 1
Angola
Argentina
Armenia
Aruba
Australia
Austria
Azerbaijan
Bahamas, The
Bahrain
Bangladesh
Barbados
Belgium
Belize
Bermuda
Bhutan
Bolivia
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Botswana
Brazil
British Virgin Islands
Brunei
Bulgaria
Burma
Burundi
Cambodia
Cameroon 2
Canada
Cape Verde
Cayman Islands
Central African Republic 2
Chad 2
Chile
China
Cocos(Keeling) Islands 1
Colombia
Comoros
Congo, Democratic Republic of the
Congo, Republic of the 2
Cook Islands
Costa Rica
Croatia
Cuba
Cyprus
Czech Republic
Denmark
Djibouti
Dominican Republic
East Timor
Ecuador
Egypt
El Salvador
Equatorial Guinea 2
Eritrea
Estonia
Ethiopia
Falkland Islands
Faroe Islands 2
Fiji
Finland
France
French Polynesia
Gabon 2
Gambia, The
Georgia
Germany
Ghana
Gibraltar
Great Britain
Greece
Greenland 2
Guadelupe 2
Guatemala
Guernsey
Guinea
Guinea-Bissau
Guyana
Haiti
Honduras
Hong Kong
Hungary
Iceland
India
Indonesia
Iran
Iraq
Ireland
Isle of Man
Israel
Italy
Jamaica
Japan
Jersey
Jordan
Kazakhstan
Kenya
Kiribati
Korea, North
Korea, South
Kuwait
Kyrgyzstan
Laos
Latvia
Lebanon
Lesotho
Liberia
Libya
Liechtenstein
Lithuania
Luxembourg
Macau
Macedonia
Madagascar
Malawi
Malaysia
Maldives
Mali
Malta
Marshall Islands 1
Martinique 2
Mauritania
Mauritius
Mexico
Moldova
Monaco
Mongolia
Montenegro 2
Morocco
Mozambique
Namibia
Nepal
Netherlands
Netherlands Antilles 3
New Caledonia
New Zealand
Nicaragua
Nigeria
Norway
Oman
Pakistan
Panama
Papua New Guinea
Paraguay
Peru
Philippines
Poland
Portugal
Qatar
Reunion 2
Romania
Russia
Rwanda
Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic (Western Sahara) 1,5
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha
Saint Pierre and Miquelon 2
Samoa
SanMarino
São Tome and Príncipe
Saudi Arabia
Serbia
Seychelles
Sierra Leone
Singapore
Slovakia
Slovenia
Solomon Islands
Somalia
Somaliland 5
South Africa
Spain
Spitzbergen/Svalbard
SriLanka
Sudan
Suriname
Swaziland
Sweden
Switzerland
Syria
Taiwan 5
Tajikistan
Tanzania
Thailand
Togo
Tokelau 1
Tonga
Transnistria 5
Trinidad and Tobago
Tunisia
Turkey
Turkmenistan
Turks and Caicos Islands 2
Tuvalu
Uganda
Ukraine
United Arab Emirates
United States
Uruguay
Uzbekistan
Vanuatu
Vatican City
Venezuela
Vietnam
Yemen
Zambia
Zimbabwe

MONETARY UNIONS: 3
Central African States
East Caribbbean States
West African States

20th CENTURY COIN-ISSUING COUNTRIES AND MONETARY UNIONS NO LONGER EXISTING: 25
Biafra
British North Borneo
Czechoslovakia
Danzig
East Africa
East Germany
French IndoChina
Katanga
Kiau Chau
Malaya
Manchukuo
New Guinea / German New Guinea
Newfoundland
Palestine Mandate
Portuguese India
Qatar and Dubai
Rhodesia and Nyasaland
Saarland
Sarawak
South Vietnam
Tannu Tuva
Tibet
Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
Yemen, Democratic Republic of
Yugoslavia

NCLT-ONLY-ISSUING and NON-COIN-ISSUING COUNTRIES: 27
Abkhazia 4
Anguilla
Antigua and Barbuda
Belarus
Benin
Burkina Faso 4
Côte d'Ivoire
Dominica
Grenada
Kosovo 4
Micronesia, Federated States of 4
Montserrat
Nagorno-Karabakh 4
Nauru 4
Niger
Niue
Northern Cyprus 4
Palau
Palestine (West Bank/Gaza) 4
Pitcairn Islands
Saint Kitts and Nevis
Saint Lucia
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
Senegal
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
South Ossetia 4
South Sudan 4

Footnotes:
1 - Country has not issued circulating coins, but has issued some cheap NCLT.
2 - Country used to issue circulating coins sometime in the 20th century but no longer does so.
3 - The Netherlands Antilles federation was officially disbanded in 2010. Coinage of the Netherlands Antilles still circulates in two of the former member-states and will continue to do so until those states (Curacao and Sint Maarten) issue a replacement currency union currency, sometime later this year (2013).
4 - Country has never issued any official legal tender coinage. Any and all "coins" issued in their name are unofficial fantasies.
5 - Although an "unrecognized" country, coinage in their name actually circulates (or circulated) on the ground.
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There's a lot missing though, even if we are only counting coin-issuing (mostly) autonomous entities of the 20th century.

For example:

Khorezm Soviet People's Republic that existed for a while before being absorbed into the USSR:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kho...iet_Republic

Hyderabad, one of the many self-governing Indian Princely States that existed right up until unification in 1947:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyderabad_State

The list goes on, of course but you get the picture. Things aren't exactly black and white in an OFEC set.
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This list is a little bit out of date. South Sudan's circulation coins came out last year.

Also, I'm pretty sure that at least some of the issues of Abkhazia and Nagorno-Karabakh are official (as far as they can be for such unrecognized states), and there are apparently some reports that a few of the Nagorno-Karabakh coins might even have actually briefly circulated on their territory.

OTOH, South Ossetia, (modern) Palestine, Kosovo and Northern Cyprus really didn't issue any official legal tender.
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... and Belarus may now be moved from the NCLT-only category to the regular one.
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About my list:

1 AFGHANISTAN
2 AJMAN - U.A.E.
3 ALBANIA
4 ALDERNEY
5 ALGERIA
6 AMERICAN SAMOA
7 ANDORRA
8 ANGOLA
9 ANGUILLA
10 ANTIGUA & BARBUDA
11 ARGENTINA
12 ARMENIA
13 ARUBA
14ASCENSION ISLAND
15 AUSTRALIA
16 AUSTRIA
17 AZERBAIJAN
18 AZORES
19 BAHAMAS
20 BAHRAIN
21 BANGLADESH
22 BARBADOS
23 BELARUS
24 BELGIAN CONGO
25 BELGIUM
26 BELIZE
27 BENIN
28 BERMUDA
29 BHUTAN
30 BIAFRA
31 BOHEMIA & MORAVIA
32 BOLIVIA
33 BOSNIA - HERZEGOVINA
34 BOTSWANA
35 BRAZIL
36 BRITISH HONDURAS
37 BRITISH NORTH BORNEO
38 BRITISH VIRGIN ISLANDS
39 BRITISH WEST AFRICA
40 BRUNEI
41 BULGARIA
42 BURUNDI
43 CAMBODIA
44 CAMEROON
45 CANADA
46 CAPE VERDE
47 CAYMAN ISLANDS
48 CENTRAL AFRICAN REPUBLIC
49 CENTRAL AFRICAN STATES
50 CENTRAL ASIA
51 CEYLON
52 CHAD
53 CHILE
54 China
55 China-JAPANESE PUPPET STATES
56 Chinese SOVIET REPUBLIC
57 China / Peoples Republic
58 China, REPUBLIC OF
59 TAIWAN
60 COLOMBIA
61 COMOROS
62 CONGO FREE STATE
63 CONGO REPUBLIC
64 CONGO DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC
65 COOK ISLANDS
66 COSTA RICA
67 CRETE
68 CROATIA
69 CUBA
70 CURACAO
71 CYPRUS
72 CZECH REPUBLIC
73 CZECHOSLOVAKIA
74 DAHOMEY
75 DANISH WEST INDIES
76 DANZIG
77 DENMARK
78 DJIBOUTI
79 DOMINICA
80 DOMINICAN REPUBLIC
81 EAST AFRICA
82 EASTERN CARIBBEAN STATES
83 ECUADOR
84 EGYPT
85 EL SALVADOR
86 EQUATORIAL AFRICAN STATES
87 EQUATORIAL GUINEA
88 ERITREA
89 ESTONIA
90 ETHIOPIA
91 FAEROE ISLANDS
92 FALKLAND ISLANDS
93 FIJI
94 FINLAND
95 FRANCE
96 FRENCH AFARS & ISSAS
97 FRENCH EQUATORIAL AFRICA
98 FRENCH INDO-China
99 FRENCH OCEANIA
100 FRENCH POLYNESIA
101 FRENCH SOMALILAND
102 FRENCH WEST AFRICA
103 FUJAIRAH
104 GABON
105 GAMBIA
106 GEORGIA
107 GERMAN EAST AFRICA
108 GERMAN STATES
109 GERMANY - EMPIRE
110 WEIMAR REPUBLIC
111 THIRD REICH
112 GERMANY-FEDERAL REPUBLIC
113 GERMANY-DEMOCRATIC REP.
114 GHANA
115 GIBRALTAR
116 GREAT BRITAIN
117 GREECE
118 GREENLAND
119 GRENADA
120 GUADELOUPE
121 GUATEMALA
122 GUERNSEY
123 GUINEA
124 GUINEA-BISSAU
125 GUYANA
126 HAITI
127 HEJAZ
128 HONDURAS
129 HONG KONG
130 HUNGARY
131 ICELAND
132 INDIA-PRINCELY STATES
133 EUROPEAN INFLUENCES IN INDIA
134 INDIA - REPUBLIC
135 INDONESIA
136 IRAN
137 IRAQ
138 IRELAND REPUBLIC
139 ISLE OF MAN
140 ISRAEL
141 ITALIAN SOMALILAND
142 ITALY
143 IVORY COAST
144 JAMAICA
145 JAPAN
146 JERSEY
147 JORDAN
148 KATANGA
149 KAZAKHSTAN
150 KEELING COCOS
151 KENYA
152 KIAU CHAU
153 KIRIBATI
154 KOREA
155 KUWAIT
156 KYRGYZSTAN
157 LAO
158 LATVIA
159 LEBANON
160 LESOTHO
161 LIBERIA
162 LIBYA
163 LIECHTENSTEIN
164 LITHUANIA
165 LUXEMBOURG
166 MACAU
167 MACEDONIA
168 MADAGASCAR
169 MADEIRA
170 MALAWI
171 MALAY PENINSULA
172 MALAYA
173 MALAYA & BRITISH BORNEO
174 MALAYSIA
175 MALDIVE ISLANDS
176 MALI
177 MALTA
178 MARSHALL ISLANDS
179 MARTINIQUE
180 MAURITANIA
181 MAURITIUS
182 MEXICO
183 MEXICO-REVOLUTIONARY
184 MOLDOVA
185 MONACO
186 MONGOLIA
187 MONTENEGRO
188 MONTSERRAT
189 MOROCCO
190 MOZAMBIQUE
191 MUSCAT & OMAN
192 MYANMAR
193 NAGORNO-KARABAKH
194 NAMIBIA
195 NAURU
196 NEPAL
197 NETHERLANDS
198 NETHERLANDS ANTILLES
199 NETHERLANDS EAST INDIES
200 NEW CALEDONIA
201 NEW GUINEA
202 NEW HEBRIDES
203 NEW ZEALAND
204 NICARAGUA
205 NIGER
206 NIGERIA
207 NIUE
208 NORWAY
209 OMAN
210 PAKISTAN
211 PALAU
212 PALESTINE
213 PANAMA
214 PAPUA NEW GUINEA
215 PARAGUAY
216 PERU
217 PHILIPPINES
218 PITCAIRN ISLANDS
219 POLAND
220 PORTUGAL
221 QATAR
222 QATAR & DUBAI
223 RAS AL-KHAIMAH
224 REUNION
225 RHODESIA
226 RHODESIA AND NYASALAND
227 ROMANIA
228 RUSSIA
229 RUSSIAN CAUCASIA
230 RWANDA
231 RWANDA-BURUNDI
232 SAARLAND
233 SAHARAWI ARAB D.R.
234 SAINT HELENA
235 SAINT H ELENA & ASCENSION
236 SAINT KITTS & NEVIS
237 SAINT LUCIA
238 ST.PIERRE & MIQUELON
239 SAINT THOMAS & PRINCE ISLAND
240 SAINT VINCENT
241 SAMOA
242 SAN MARINO
243 SARAWAK
244 SAUDI ARABIA
245 SENEGAL
246 SERBIA
247 SEYCHELLES
248 SHARJAH
249 SIERRA LEONE
250 SINGAPORE
251 SLOVAKIA
252 SLOVENIA
253 SOLOMON ISLANDS
254 SOMALIA
255 SOMALILAND
256 SOUTH AFRICA
257 SOUTH ARABIA
258 SOUTH GEORGIA AND THE SOUTH S ANDWICH ISLANDS
259 SOUTHERN RHODESIA
260 SPAIN
261 SPAIN CIVIL WAR
262 SPITZBERGEN
263 SRI (SHRI) LANKA
264 STRAITS SETTLEMENTS
265 SUDAN
266 SURINAME
267 SWAZILAND
268 SWEDEN
269 SWITZERLAND
270 SYRIA
271 TAJIKISTAN
272 TANNU TUVA
273 TANZANIA
274 TATARSTAN
275 THAILAND
276 TIBET
277 TIMOR
278 TOGO
279 TOKELAU
280 TONGA
281 TONKIN
282 TRANSNISTRIA
283 TRINIDAD & TOBAGO
284 TRISTAN DA CUNHA
285 TUNISIA
286 TURKEY
287 TURKMENISTAN
288 TURKS & CAICOS ISLANDS
289 TUVALU
290 UGANDA
291 UKRAINE
292 UMM AL QAIWAIN - U.A.E.
293 UNITED ARAB EMIRATES
294 UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
295 URUGUAY
296 UZBEKISTAN
297 VANUATU
298 VATICAN CITY
299 VENEZUELA
300 VIETNAM
301 WEST AFRICAN STATES
302 YEMEN
303 YEMEN ARAB REPUBLIC
304 YEMEN REPUBLIC
305 YEMEN, DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC
306 YUGOSLAVIA
307 ZAIR
308 ZAMBIA
309 ZANZIBAR
310 ZIMBABWE


So not 311 / 313 but 308 / 310 from reason I forgot that I put on my excel list Hutt River, East Timor and Isle de Pascua.

My source is Krause book - but like You can see German states, or China provinces, Mexico revolutionary, Spanish civil war, I count as one.

I chose this form to have a goal to achieve in my life

Of course when the opportunity arises I also gather for example:

China provinces 19/31
Chinese Soviet Republic 2/8
Germany States 12/25
India Princely States 10/30
Mexico Revolutionary - Provinces 6/10
Spain Civil War 4/16

but this ones I can not make gather before my death
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After some searching, and with big help of friend from Numista, I'm almost at the end of my OFEC XX century collection. Now, after I bought Tajikistan 20 roubles 1999 - one more country left :)


309/310 OFEC XX century colection:


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Congratulations!

And good luck with finding a nice Zanzibar coin.
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