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A while back I started collecting 1825 Half Cents because the total mintage figure was so low and the prices were somewhat reasonable. I actually believed I had found a new 3rd variety among the many I had collected. I want to get rid of them now, but what I want to figure out is how to market it with the PCGS population figure. In other words, PCGS states there are 1,500 surviving examples. They have around 500 of those graded. (NGC & ANACS have another 600 between them). So does this figure mean that one could approximate there are 400 surviving, UNGRADED examples? Obviously the 1500 is a running estimate, but if these statements were taken as undeniable facts, would my assumption be correct? Or am I missing some essential fact? Because if it were taken as fact, my 60 1825 Half Cents (ungraded) would mean I possess 60/400 examples. (I apologize for erroroneously posting this in "Modern US coins"...that one should be deleted) |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I do not envy your situation - owning 50 raw coins of a semi-scarce date in a less-collected series with many certified examples already out there. Nonetheless -  to the CCF! |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
604 Posts |
These are estimates. TPG companies aren't accounting for the ones that were cracked out of their slabs and resubmitted in hopes of getting a higher grade. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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What condition are they in? We love pics...
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I looked in the bay and saw 98 1825 Half Cents. Within these listings, there was one where someone was offering 35 1825 coins as a group. Maybe that is you. I didn't get a feeling that this coin was at all scarce. IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Your selling strategy seems questionable.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Just based on the number for sale on ebay,I don't know that it's a very rare date. Your best bet is probably to take the time to list them individually. You shouldn't list more than a few at a time either. Good luck! |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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PCGS survival estimates are notoriously inaccurate in most cases.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The 25 C-2 is considered to be an R-1 which means over 1500. How much over is anyone's guess. The C-1 is an R-3, at least another 400. So you are talking a MINIMUM of probably over 2000 pieces.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I genuinely do not understand what it is you are trying to accomplish here? Just sell them. You cannot change or manipulate what the coins are. Buyers will buy them as 1825 Half Cents no matter what you market them as and that is all they are ever going to be... |
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Pillar of the Community
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'Survival estimates' are just that- Estimates. Estimates, especially within the Coin World, can be quite erroneous... |
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United States
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Early copper survival rates are usually 1-3% of mintage figures. However mintage figures do not reflect the dates on the coins, rather the actual production for the fiscal year. It is possible that early in the year 1826, the mint may have made some 1825 Half Cents before the 1826 dies were made. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The survival rates for Half Cents minted after 1811 are praobably higher than the 1 to 3 per cent guidelines. The Half Cent was not a popular coins and did not circulate well. It is rare to find these coins in less than VF by honest wear. The 1825 Half Cent has some scarcity to it, but collector demand is usuall limited to a few pieces at a time. Your best bet is to offer these coins one at a time over a fairly stretched out period. What you are learning is what those who have tried to corner a market have learned in the past. Selling your hoard takes patience and time. You can't sell them quickly or all at once and expect to come out well financially. |
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Pillar of the Community
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Why 1825 Half Cents? I have a similar interest in 1858-S quarters but the price is no longer low. If it was I would buy another one and would be just as satisfied as I am with the others. Maybe a roll of them would finally satisfy me. Glad we're not interested in the same thing. "Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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 with jerseyben, well put  |
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