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beloze New Member Russia 2 Posts	Posted 04/08/2008 6:03 pm Hello! I`ve a coin but can`t recognize and estimate it... Help me Please *Edited by Forum Dad to put images in post* Report this Post to the Staff

Becky Pillar of the Community United States 954 Posts	Posted 04/08/2008 8:17 pm It's not a coin, there's no denomination. It must be some kind of token or game piece. Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16817 Posts	Posted 04/08/2008 8:46 pm The lack of a denomination does not in itself always mean it isn't a coin, but in this case the conclusion is correct. It's probably a jeton or game counter. The main thing to notice here is the mismatch of countries. Napoleon III was a French emperor, but the double-headed eagle on the other side was never used as a symbol of France; that's the coat of arms of the Austrian Empire, or perhaps the Russian Empire. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
GO Moderator United States 6563 Posts	Posted 04/08/2008 11:33 pm interesting piece nonetheless. I'd hold on to it Report this Post to the Staff
beloze New Member Russia 2 Posts	Posted 04/09/2008 07:40 am Thanks a lot!! And... how much it will be cost? At your opinions... Thank You! Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16817 Posts	Posted 04/09/2008 08:28 am That would depend on how old it is, which is hard to determine. These "coins" aren't listed in the usual coin catalogues, you'd need specialist books. Napoleon III became emperor in 1852, and was overthrown in 1870, so if it actually comes from this time period, probably around $10 or so. The latest it could date from is 1918, when both the Austrian and Russian empires collapsed. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
echizento Moderator United States 23731 Posts	Posted 04/09/2008 08:53 am Interesting token, French Empire on the obverse and Austrian/Hungarian Empire on the reverse. Report this Post to the Staff
Kreuzer Valued Member Spain 58 Posts	Posted 04/09/2008 12:21 pm It may be some kind of satiric coin. After the defeat of French army in Sedan (1870) in the Franco-Prussian War, a big amount of coins were modified. In these coins, Napoleon´s bust was wearing a Prussian helmet or was countermarked with the word "Sedan". Sometimes, new "tokens" were made to ridicule the emperor (I have seen one that looks like a 10 centimes coin, with the imperial eagle changed by an owl). So, the Beloze´s "coin" could be another attempt to ridicule the emperor, showing his bust with the Austrian/Hungarian shield on the reverse, since France and Austria were fervent enemies during all Modern Age. Edited by Kreuzer 04/10/2008 01:38 am Report this Post to the Staff
chrisild Pillar of the Community Germany 1238 Posts	Posted 04/09/2008 7:40 pm The "Austrian" eagle might as well be a "Russian" eagle. The two look pretty similar; would have to see the details of the shield. Besides, depending on the size and thickness of this piece, this may be some kind of play money ... Christian Report this Post to the Staff
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