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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The only way I can get enough money to buy the coins I want it to find a way to make a buck out of coin collecting. I have many coins I want to purchase to complete sets but if I can't make money from buying and selling I will never get there. Any ideas? I just want to make enough to get the coins I want. I don't plan on getting rich off coins nor do I want it as a full time job. I am retired so that means I live on a fixed income. Every time I sell a coin I lose money. I want to reverse that.
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United States
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I don't have a good answer (I wish I did!), but in your shoes I would probably narrow my focus. Get out of one set for funds to work toward completing another.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Are you selling on ebay ?
Oregon coin geek.....*** GO BEAVS ! ! ! ***
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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"How do I make a buck out of Classic Coins"? Buy low, sell high.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The harsh reality is now is not the time to sell, the market is low and it is a buyers market, not a sellers. I am in the process of liquidating my Canadian silver sets cause I have lost interest in them and want to reinvest the money in my Peace dollar set. I know I lost some money on selling them, but I'd honestly recoup the most I can to reinvest. I am also saving cash to buy a few collections when I go to Florida Tuesday for a week to visit my grandmother; she's lined up several of her friends who want to sell their coins.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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How much time are you willing to devote? It usually takes many years of study and experience to successfully flip coins. You're going to have to know how to grade, detect counterfeits/alterations/doctoring, value coins using actual sales and price guides, attribute varieties, and photograph coins if you plan on selling online. There are many online resources like this forum, books, and collectors/dealers that can help you acquire the knowledge and skills necessary to flip coins. If you are willing to put in the effort, it can be learned.
Unfortunately, the U.S market is soft and it will be more difficult. If you made a mistake in the past, the market would more likely than not help get you out of the hole. Now, it is more likely to help you keep digging.
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In the short term I can break even on bullion buying the lows and selling the highs. But this is not a way to generate enough money to buy interesting coins. Collectable coins don't flip easily in the short term. I saw a raw 1859-S eagle in rough condition a couple months ago on ebay. There were a lot of bidders and it ended up selling for $1300. For a collector that would be a relative bargain. But the buyer slabbed it and a month later listed it for $700 above the raw sale price. It didn't sell. The collector interest goes away when it's no longer a bargain. You have to see real shifts and these normally take 10-20 years.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
Edited by thq 04/01/2017 2:11 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Making "a buck" by selling classic coins is not easy. There is really no substitute for knowledge so far as I'm concerned, and to get that you need to read and observe a lot. Collectors spend a lot of time studying the coins they collect so learning does not seem like work for them. If you all you are interested in is makeing money, learning about coins and the business could seem like the driest, worst job ever.
I was a collector for 40 years before I became a dealer and kept at it for 10 years. I came to the job with a wealth of knowledge and learned a lot more on the job because I got to see and handle so many coins, some of which I had not seen before. I'd be a dealer today except for the fact that I don't like the security issues around the shows. I had a ball dealing in coins and working with collectors, but I reached the age and financial position where I didn't have to continue doing it.
I've known a few would-be dealers who tried to make it by buying and selling coins based on the grade that was one the holder. All of them failed. The reason is that to be a really successful dealer, you need to be as good or better than the average guy who grades coins for the TPGs. If you are not good, you'll have to make it either by a great gift for gab or by out right beating people. I was never great at the last two, so knowledge was my strength.
Edited by billjones 04/01/2017 2:49 pm
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I buy at half of what I think I can sell for, and I sell it. The trick is to find these underpriced coins. My profit margin is usually pretty significant, and I can usually pay for the coins I want. I usually make $200-500 a month in profit.
Luckily, I don't have that big of an active want list, so funding is usually not difficult.
When people ask how to get started, I usually reply, "$1000 and 10 years of experience."
Edited by TypeCoin971793 04/01/2017 2:50 pm
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United States
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If you go to shows and buy at auction, buying below bid, you can sell for 10-20% above bid to collectors. its not easy and take a lot of time. You need to also know what things trade at relative to the price guides as well. With some coins, such as Draped Bust Dollars, I've actually found the Blue Book is more accurate than the greysheet.
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Rest in Peace
United States
4078 Posts |
Fantastic amount of advice in this post.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Thanks for the advice. I don't have years. I once tried the collectable/antique business with my wife. We had a ball and ended up not making money but we do have a house full of junk. The only really good deals I got were buying at yard and estate sales. When you buy at auction you are buying what the market will pay. ebay is the worst in my experience. The coins go for high retail and even absurd prices. I did sell on ebay and again I had fun but after expenses I did not make a penny. I do remember the buyers complaining about shipping costs and when I finally closed shop I was getting emails asking me why I hung it up, ha, ha. I sold stuff I found at yard sales.
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Pillar of the Community
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I have made money investing in stocks over the years and it took 35 years of disciplined dollar/cost averaging putting 15%-20% of my money away each month. If I had thirty years to really learn about coins and how to buy low and sell high maybe I could make it work. If as some of you say now is a buyers market it would be a good time to buy classic coins if I have 10-15 years before I cash-in my chips. I will just use my stock market gains to buy the coins I want as objects I like for art's sake. I wish I had started collecting when I was 25 years old.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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This question reminds me of my personal get rich scheme back in college. While working at the Texas State Capitol, I thought I was going to become a "bookie". I lasted all of one weekend, as I recall everyone that I took bets from won & wiped me and my "small" bank out of business. I'd love to deal in coins, but the danger of getting off the streets for a bargain is too risky. Best of luck to you!
Edited by thecoinguy1964 04/01/2017 7:33 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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terry - Sounds to me like it's a bit late in the game for you to really understand the business, the process. What do you not get about the need to buy far enough below typical retail to cover your cost and expenses, plus a profit?  If you lose money every time you sell a coin, as you say, then you're paying way too much. Ask yourself what needs to be done next. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I used to travel a lot. Wherever I was I tried to visit the local coin shops. I looked at a lot of coins before I settled on ones I liked. I have no intention of selling them, but anything that falls in the bullion category gets sold eventually.
I always try to buy at least a nominal amount of coins during my visits. As time went on and I found less coins of interest, the purchases were usually $20-40 worth of common half dollars. I accumulate them piggy-bank style, then sell them to buy something of significant value, usually a collectable coin but not always. I've worn a Breitling watch for 20 years that cost me four common date eagles, for instance.
The best part is hitting the jackpot and finding a coin I want, because it doesn't happen very often. Maybe once or twice a year. They aren't usually screaming bargains that I could flip for a profit. A 1671 8 reale Potosi cob in Carmel. An 1872-cc half and an 1812 ruble in St. Charles IL, An 1857-S half eagle in Portland. On every visit I'm looking for a very wide range of US and foreign coins.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
Edited by thq 04/01/2017 11:45 pm
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