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New Member
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Would love to know what happened to this Penny. It's encapsulated, Graded MS60, DBL Struck both sides, Off Center, Scratched. Looking at photo's of error coins on a few web sites, examples don't seem to match up with this coin. To me, it looks like something else may have happened besides being DBL struck. A dealer recommended having the coin authenticated, said it's possibly counterfeit. If something else did happen at the mint is it possibly something that might be noted when grading? Is it likely the scratches came from the mint? I'm a complete novice with error coins, I collected coins as a kid. Thanks in advance for any information or opinions regarding this coin.     |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I don't have a clue how that could happen, but I hope it's not faked. I'll be very interested to read an expert's account of how that could occur. Obviously, the collar wasn't functioning; maybe the loading of planchets could push that through. To my eyes, that doesn't look like a typical Denver mint mark for that year.  Edited by Biedercoins
04/03/2017 07:14 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It seems to be genuine ,the devices are not incused.and yet I am no expert ,very interesting,lets see what coop has to say!
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Canada
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 Interesting coin , like to see what the experts have to say  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Edited by coop
04/03/2017 11:43 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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to the forum! Quote:
encapsulated, Graded MS60 What company encapsulated it? It looks too round to be a saddle strike. Usually when a coin gets struck outside of the collar, it distorts the round shape of it a bit.  http://www.lincolncentsonline.com/error3.html Edited by cwb
04/03/2017 12:02 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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It is a genuine error with a few unfortunate PMD scratches. It looks like a regular double strike as opposed to a saddle strike. |
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 United States
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ANACS encapsulated the coin.
Please correct me If I'm mistaken. Saddle strike the coin is between two dies, both dies would hit the coin at the exact same time, thus there would not be slide area? I read something about it yesterday. I apologize if my verbiage is incorrect or for any misinterpretation. Thanks
A few years ago I posted some distorted images of this coin. Since then I've purchased an old DSLR body and last week a micro lens. Thought the coin would be a good subject for the lens. Taking a few photos quickly turned into a ton of photo's hopefully getting a few with good detail.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Are we looking at the whole coin in these images, or has the edge been cut off by something?
How about some images of the whole coin with the holder?
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New Member
United States
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The photo's posted are the entire coin as shot. However I did remove or crop some of the holder or case from the images. I read the maximum size for posting photo's is 300k. Being frugal with the allowable file size I removed what I felt was not necessary from the images, which possibly allowing for a bit more detail in the image? If it helps or not, it was my goal. I only took a couple of images that show some of the case surrounding the coin entirely. If you would rather see the entire holder or case, what ever it's called. I would be happy to take photo's and post them. Please let me know. These two photo's are the entire image as shot.   |
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New Member
United States
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What is the partial circular depression that appears off center on the front outside edge of the coin? The back does not seem to have it.
Anyone know or willing to make an educated guess?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The distance between the two strikes is consistent with a saddle strike of this time period. The rough texture in the gap between the two strikes may be an unusual pattern of structural deformation in response to the horizontal compressive stresses generated by a saddle strike. However, the head-to-base orientation of the two obverse designs is not one I associate with this date (it should be head-to-head). Head-to-base orientations are seen in the 1950s and again in 1969 and early 1970s. However, I can't rule out the occasional exception. If the gap between the two strikes shows any buckling, that would prove a saddle strike. If there is no buckling, then it's either a saddle strike or a conventional double strike. In any case, I see no evidence from here that counterfeit dies were used.
Error coin writer and researcher.
Edited by mikediamond
04/04/2017 1:28 pm
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New Member
United States
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There is a slight buckling between the strikes in the rough area. I noticed it for the first time last night using a flash light. I will try to get some photo's of the buckle and post them.
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