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Good evening I have some gold coins and wanted to know if someone could help me identify them? Many thanks Gary  *** Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. *** |
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Gary, first welcome to CCF. Second, I'm going to recommend to the mods that this post be moved over to the ancient world coin section to get more eyeballs on it. You will need to include pics of the other side of these coins (ideally separately so that we can see the most detail). Third, just as an initial guess based on the overall devices, I'm thinking that the two middle coins are Italian and the last coin is an Umayyad dinar.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Thanks very much for this I have added another couple of photos Regards Gary   |
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As Spence suggests, it would be very helpful to provide a single closeup shot of each coin, so that the details are easier to make out.
Second coin appears to be a zecchino of Alvise IV Mocenigo (Venice), 1763-1778.
Edit: I'll add that I think maybe I can see "AVL" above the kneeling doge on coin one above. If so, that may be part of "PAVL RAINER" - this would make it a zecchino of Paolo Ranier, 1779-1789. Again, though, a closeup would help to confirm.
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04/10/2017 10:32 pm
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Gary, thanks for posting better pics of your coins. That definitely helps with the identification process.
I no longer believe that your fourth coin is an Umayyad Dinar because the Kufic script around both rims is degenerate. Your piece has some characteristics similar to the gold dinars produced by the Crusaders in Tripoli in the 12th Century AD. I'm not 100% that this is what you have, but it may be a starting place for further investigation.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Hello I can help you with the fourth coin. It's not a Crusader imitative piece as someone suggested, as those tend to imitate dinars of the Fatimid Caliphate, while this one has a significantly different style. It is a gold 1/2 dinar from the Sulayhid dynasty (an Arab dynasty in southern Arabia), minted during the reign of the Queen 'Arwa Bint Ahmad in a place called "Dhu Jibla" (in modern-day Yemen) year AH 498, which is in the Hijri calender. The calligraphy is crude, but is still an official issue. Here's a link to a similar piece: https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/...a47b00f3b817Edited by mohammadaak
04/14/2017 11:54 am
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@mohammad, I'm very glad to have you weigh in on these and it looks like you got this coin identified properly. I hope you reply to these sorts of posted coins more often. I am definitely an amateur on these.  "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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this book is a great starter in reading ancient Arabic I agree--that is precisely the one I use. Looks like my readings are about 67% to 75% accurate based on your corrections of my replies to previous threads here. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Thanks very much for the answer on the fourth coin that really helps. Any ideas on the first three? Regards Gary
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Posted 04/10/2017 11:32 am
It really took a lot of training learning ancient Arabic Kufic script 
