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1864 Seated Half Opinions (You Vs PCGS)

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Hi everyone! First time poster; I just got this coin back from PCGS and was wondering how you'd all grade it.

I'm new to the hobby and graded this one wrong... just trying to improve!

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to CCF. I am no pro and not good at grading,that being said I will guess MS64 details. It looks cleaned.Here is a good link on grading https://www.PCGS.com/Photograde/
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I do not see an MS coin there, I would venture a 55 Hopefully a 58
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How long should I wait before revealing the answer, by the way?
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I would also say AU55/58. Also, why don't you wait couple of days until you reveal it, so more members can participate.
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Thanks for the welcomes! Sounds good to me, I'll post the answer on Monday.
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Shot at AU-58, just smashing.



to the CCF!
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I agree AU-58 as well. Welcome
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I'm at au53. There is no luster, but also not a lot of wear. There are a lot of scratches and marks especially in the obverse fields. A nice strike and great eye appeal. It would be 55 if it had fewer marks in the fields.

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I'm gonna take the trend a little lower and say AU-50. Not sure if it is original or not.
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I am at AU-55.
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AU-53. I like it.
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AU details cleaned.
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I don't think it's cleaned, all the fields look natural as they fade into the devices, but I do reduce my grade opinion from 58 to 53.
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If it graded AU50 sounds fair and a 53 would be no surprise. The burn (solder?) marks on both sides of the obverse could have resulted in a no-grade though.
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