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I bought this Netherlands Rix dollar (rijksdaalder) recently from a US dealer (not ebay).  Rix dollar obverse  Rix dollar reverse It is a Netherlands Gelderland 1622 coin with the diameter of 40 mm. The coin does have a silver "ring" when dropped on a table. The weight is 24.44 gm (standard is 29.03 gm) making it severely underweight. The edges normally have lettering but the edges on this coin appear to have been clipped and then rounded. I photographed the edges starting from the top of the obverse head around the coin at intervals of 45 degrees.  Rix dollar edges Opinion, counterfeit, clipped, or something else?  Edited by willieboyd2
04/23/2017 7:01 pm
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Determine a specific gravity or have it analyzed via xray fluorescence to see if the silver content is anywhere near what is should be. But my feeling is, even if its composition indicates it's genuine, this is not the one you want, unless it was extremely cheap and you just have to have any old example of the type. The underweight condition will paradoxically always weigh heavily against its value, even if that can be satisfactorily explained. And the edge is part of the coin, which ideally should be at least mostly intact. Just my opinion, but I wouldn't be sorry to see it go back and wait for a better specimen.
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"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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Willie, Quote:
The edges normally have lettering but the edges on this coin appear to have been clipped and then rounded. I don't think this coin is edge-lettered in origin. Your coin looks well to me. I have a Friesland Rijksdaaler which weighs 28.61 grams and a diameter 42.3-42.7mm, plain edge. Though the your coin is "severely" underweighted, I don't think it is fake. Maybe it is accounted by a smaller planchet strike and mint difference. Another test for silver content is the attraction by neodymium magnet or not. |
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Thank all of you for the replies. wonghinghi, You are right, this variety Davenport 4828 (John S. Davenport, European Crowns 1600-1700) does not have edge lettering.  https://www.brianrxm.comThe Mysterious Egyptian Magic Coin Coins in Movies Coins on Television
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04/24/2017 12:42 am
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Curious piece... looks fairly legit upon cursory glance BUT certainly impossibly underweight for the type and doesn't at all appear clipped.
There are, as a comparison, more than a few contemporary counterfeit lion dollars out of various regions that those circulated in... and yet the design elements on this piece look far too correct for that to be the explanation.
Hmmmmmmm...
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Here's what you want to look out for http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coin-1-Duca...AOSwrddY7b8SPerfect roundness and dentils are not a good sign, and if you blow this up you can see some pimples that look like casting bubbles. Irregular thickness and roundness, like yours has, are the signs of a real coin or an exceptional quality fake. "Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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04/24/2017 9:47 pm
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