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Authentic Or Not - $1 Gold 1868

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What do you think?



Authentic-Or-Not---$1-Gold-1868

Authentic-Or-Not---$1-Gold-1868
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RoyCoinBoy's Avatar
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 Posted 04/27/2017  08:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RoyCoinBoy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have doubts. The font of the date looks off from a genuine specimen.
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 Posted 04/27/2017  08:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2012 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's fake. The hair detail and date give it away.
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 Posted 04/27/2017  08:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nfine to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think not.
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 Posted 04/27/2017  08:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Biedercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Unless this is some obscure variant I've never heard of, it's a Copy. Not even a very good one.
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 Posted 04/27/2017  08:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cownas22 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Easily a fake, hair/eyes give it away, date is wrong also
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Hair, face, date, and denticles are all wrong. 100% fake.
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Definitely a fake, (style of Liberty quite wrong, edge beading very different from genuine), best termed 'jeweler's copy' if it is gold.
These often faked for jewelry purposes.
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Thanks to all who made time and made an effort to answer my question.

Now to the second question - Is there any value in this coin? I bought it several years ago and do not remember the price back then.
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Biedercoins's Avatar
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It has little or no numismatic value. Any value it has depends on its metallic composition. Check with a gold buyer to see if they would buy it. Before handing over cash, he will do chem test (that involves scraping a sample to a stone and applying a series of chemicals) which is mildly destructive. Do a search for "gold test arkansas stone" and you can find more details.

If it's plated base metal, that's not good. Good luck!
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Not good. Not even close. The design is roughly the same, but the execution was done by someone outside of the 19th century mint system. I don't have an 1868 gold dollar, but the design work was the same year after year. The only thing that varies is the style of the date. Here is a genuine example of an 1858 gold dollar. The differences between the real piece and the fake are subtle but obvious if you really look.

Authentic-Or-Not---$1-Gold-1868 Authentic-Or-Not---$1-Gold-1868
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 Posted 04/27/2017  11:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgCoinAu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
do a specific gravity test on it to find out if it's gold.. .between that and a magnet there's no need to scrape it or apply an acid..if it's at least gold you could sell it for it's PM value... otherwise it's a blank...
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It looks like a poor copy, as mentioned above. Especially comparing to authentic picture.
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I remember seeing a bunch of counterfeit one dollar gold pieces, in fact a basket full, back in the 1980s. I was going to buy one as real but the dealer let me know to look closely. I learned that if any single letter in the legend is not struck up or differs in style from the same letter elsewhere, best to pass. If everything looks good and consistent you may still want to get scientific with weights, diameters, and comparison to known good examples if you are buying raw coins.
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 Posted 04/27/2017  4:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Terrible fake. But anyway -



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