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 Posted 04/14/2008  11:39 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add orionnet to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello Everyone,

I must say that I am finding this forum to be absolutely great for advice and people willing to answer questions and such. So I hope that the list of questions I have about noodling is not to many all at once.

1. I am guessing the bank is the best place to get coin for noodling, what is the best way to ask, just ask for rolled/plastic bagged coin, or ask for bags of loose coin? Do they charge if you want to withdraw or buy a lot of coin?

2. What is the best approach to noodling, just inspect every coin for anything that looks different as well as known issues. Or do you sort into year's take the best condition coins out and then search the years with known issues for errors?

3. Is it better to mix denom's eg get $100 of each silver coin at a time or just get $200 or $400 of one denom.

4. Is there any particular coin which is easier to start with noodling to have most success in finds, the 5cent, 10 cent, 20cent, 50cent, $1 or $2?

5. Do you tend to go to the same place to get your coin for noodling each week or month, or do you spread around to a few different places. How do you go about depositing the unwanted coin's again?

Hmm I did have another question but cannot remember it right now. So I hope I am not asking to much all at once, I really do thank-you for any help you can give me.
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 Posted 04/15/2008  7:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jeff to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Start with a Bank. Try and 'cultivate' a friendly teller.

Best bet for starters is 50¢ (or 20¢) and they come usually in $10 ziplock bags or $200 bags of rolls (or sealed plastic bags sometimes now). 20¢ are to go to $100 bags I hear -workcover regulations (not to exceed 10kg).

I first look for commemoratives and sort them. It has to be pretty poor Centenary of Federation for me to discard but I would only keep really good 2005 WWII. You will soon get to know which ones are worth keeping.
Then sort by years and pick out very low mintage years (eg, '73, '85, 93, 97, '07) 50¢. Look also for varieties -2004 bighead/pointy A and 1966 'wavy 2' 20¢.
Then sort out any extra good specimens of the common years. I found an extra fine 1966 20¢ recently and sold it next day for $4.

Also, keep and eye for mint issue only years. Sometimes one of those (only available in mint sets, not circulation) does turn up in circulation. And errors -check the forum topics for information.

That should give you a start. And, if in doubt -keep it until you have established is it worth keeping or not.

Oh, if you don't have one get a catalogue (Macdonalds or Rennicks) ASAP. Very good investment for around $30. Bigfella could help you there.

cheers
Jeff
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 Posted 04/15/2008  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just a few extra points; don't take the noodled coins back to the bank you get your coins from; you don't want to search the same coins twice. If you deal with the Bank where you hold an account, they may not charge for the coins, but some Banks do charge.

FYI, noodling a heap of 5¢ is a very time consuming job (for me anyway) & is probably best done in small batches. I did $50 in one hit & had to go back over them after someone advised a different error or variety on a forum & I found about 6 die cracks I'd missed.

My sorting saga:

I have a stack of 22 x 2 compartment reusable food storage containers I got at Woolies, each compartment has a year written on it + a sticker with Denom's & Mintage data stuck inside. This means I don't have to rely on memory for mintages etc. If I want something on a sticker to catch my attention, I hi-light it. EG: MSO coins

I start by sorting the coins by the Queens head, Young, middle age, Older age & then sort them into the individual years into the containers. I do the Young heads first, then Middle, then Older. Stack the containers, then noodle each year. (I do all this sitting in an armchair with the containers spread out on my lap & a light over my left shoulder so I can see properly)

I keep some other small containers nearby for "really good" coins, "low mintage", "rim Cuds, lamination flaws" etc..You get the drift? Plus 1 larger container to dump all the rejected coins into as I noodle them.

When finished each denom, deal with the coins put aside, place in 2 x 2's, pockets, albums or trays, whichever is your way of storing them.
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 Posted 04/16/2008  01:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Learjet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I rule up a piece of paper and mark the last years digits on the top of the page, starting at 1966. I then place each coin into the right spot for each year.

I'll upload a piccy to clicky, I'm too lazy to upload to the gallery.

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 Posted 04/16/2008  01:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add orionnet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Jeff and Nancy, that is some great information to get me started.

Do you find that it is easier to stick to one denom for a while or go back and forth between denom's for variety. I think I will start with 50 cents, as we already had some bags at home saved from out change and I have already got about 26 different veriations in my collection there, so may look to get some more there.

From some of what I have heard they are planning to take 5c, 10c, 20c all to $100 a bag, unsure on the 50c as well as I think $1 to $500 a bag. Though who really knows you here to many conflicting and plausible variations of most stories till you actually witness it yourself you just do not know.

Nancy, for the 2x2's and other storage products, is there somewhere in Brisbane that you can recommend or do you generally mail order?
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 Posted 04/16/2008  01:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add orionnet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That doesn't sound like a bad idea Learjet, So I guess you go down the column in years so 66, 76, 86, 96, 06? or was there something I missed?
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 Posted 04/16/2008  01:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add justabeginner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Orion.... Lastly, do not forget to tell us what you found in the 'Post your finds' thread.....
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 Posted 04/16/2008  02:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Learjet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
So I guess you go down the column in years so 66, 76, 86, 96, 06?


Yep, spot on.
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 Posted 04/16/2008  07:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Proko to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I mainly noodle 20c and 50c coins. I get my 20c coins from my local branch, noodle them, then take them to a bank out of my local area and exchange them for 50c coins. Once I noodle the 50c coins I then take them to my local branch and exchange them back for 20c coins. This means that (hopefully) I don't end up noodling the same coins twice.
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 Posted 04/16/2008  4:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I go to VP Coins at Mt Gravatt, but that might not be convenient for you so here's a few Coin Shops in Brisbane;

VP Coins
Shop 2b Central Fair
48 Creek Road
Mt Gravatt Qld 4122
Ph: 07 3216 8711
Fax: 07 3216 8622

Colonial Coins and Medals
Shop 1 / 218 Adelaide Street
Brisbane
Ph: 07 3229 3949
Fax: 07 3229 3945

Global Coins and Banknotes
Shop 2/708 Sandgate Rd,
Clayfield Qld 4011
Ph: 07 3862 4577
Fax: 07 3862 1877

I also have a sorting "page" that I use mostly for small numbers of coins or foreign coins. I did it in Excel, Landscape, 10 columns wide, 5 rows deep, top row of cells numbered from 60-69, 2nd row 70-79 & so on.

Once it's covered in coins, it looks just like Learjet's page. Once you've got 50 posts, I can send it to you if you're interested but probably quicker to make your own. I also have a one page Excel spreadsheet with mintage stats of all Aussie Decimal Circulation issues.

I noodle approx $600 of assorted coins each week so I don't get bags from the Bank very often. I have had 3 x $1000 of $1, 1 x $50 of 5¢.

If I was doing Bank bags regularly, I'd rotate the denominations as I'd get sick 'n' tired of doing the same denom over & over.
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 Posted 04/17/2008  12:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add orionnet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think Mt Gravatt is easiest, it is pain to have to go into the City.

I did go to my bank yesterday, and did manage to get $50 in 50cents, but apparently I was really lucky they had any cause someone had just deposited them. Though I think no one to interested in coins had seen these as there are some interesting ones from 07 in there.

I have started to use the spreadsheet that was put together by rggoodie and bigfella. Though for things like the mintage figure may be easier to have all on one page.
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 Posted 04/17/2008  12:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add justabeginner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Orion, did you look for the incused flag 50 cent? Make sure you do....
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 Posted 04/17/2008  02:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add orionnet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes of course that was the primary 50cent piece that I am looking for as well as the Centenary of Federation coins. In $50 there was only 2 millennium 50c, both normal. As well only found on of the centenary of Federation, which was one of the 5 I needed (cannot remember which state right now, however was in not the best condition). Interestingly in just $50 about 20% was dated 2006. Some 2007, as well maybe half a dozen, showing differing degree's of doubling, and possible die crack between the top point and left point of the star at the top, however undusre and need to get a closer look, if it is anything will get a picture and look to post it in the error forum by the weekend.
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 Posted 04/17/2008  4:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
G'day, there's no point noodling unless you have an idea what you're looking for: MSO & low mintage years; named varieties such as incuse; wavy; big-head; etc. And then there's Cuds, cracks, etc.
And to have such an idea, you need to read-up on your subject first. So, when you've done your research, start noodling that denomination. When you've read up on another, then you can start on that.
Noodling is very cheap collecting: I only "pay" for what I keep. ... and I've always got change for the parking meter.
I also keep near-uncirculated examples, even of common years. I imagine that if I want to start swapping, possibly with overseas collectors, it will be useful to have a stock of clean, presentable coins to offer.
I got back into collecting a few years ago, so I had to make up for missed opportunities. I started looking for all of the commemoratives, so I was drawn to 20c, 50c, & $1. But recently, I decided to give some energy to the other denominations also.
For my trouble, I have one incuse and a couple of 2000 mules; and a nearly complete set, by year, of each denomination from 1966. Only last week, I found my first 2003 Volunteers 20-cent.
Of course, some are well-circulated, so I'm always looking to upgrade what I have.
Don't forget, when you've finished noodling, you can review your previous store of "keepers", and perhaps replace some of them with more recent finds.
It's fun; it's harmless; it's not expensive; it keeps me off the streets and out of the pubs - the perfect hobby.
Peter
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 Posted 04/17/2008  5:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
it keeps me off the streets and out of the pubs
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 Posted 04/23/2008  01:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bossy Flossy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
my first attempt at noodling was a failure, the lady at the counter refused to sell me the coins, so off I went to the next bank and the same thing happened...

what am I doing wrong?

i was polite and just simplyed asked to swap my $50 note for $50 of 50 cent pieces...
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