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Major Mess Up On Date Of This 198? Penny

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 Posted 05/15/2017  8:06 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add KittenLove to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I know its a PMD but the date of is gone. Let me know what you think and if I need any more photos of it.


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 Posted 05/15/2017  8:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Let me know...if I need any more photos of it.


@KL, don't need more pics, just ones with the focus on the foreground of the coin (or alternatively, with the same focus, but the date in the background).
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 Posted 05/15/2017  9:25 pm  Show Profile   Check spru's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spru to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like the 1 took a hit and the metal was shifted over. Possibly from a rolling machine or coin counter?

Edit: assuming it's a 1981, I'm speaking of the last.
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I thought it was an '86 myself... one of the photos looks like parts of a 6 but might be my eyes messing with me.
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 Posted 05/15/2017  9:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KittenLove to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
if it is a 1 and shifted would that 1 is to close to the 8 and the angle is wrong too. The weight of is 3.1. The date would have to be from 1982. Kinda looked like a 4 but I will try to take some better photos of the date.
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 Posted 05/15/2017  9:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scstrawn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a grease filled 4, to me.
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I think the second pic shows it best (currently).

Yes, the angle is wrong and it is too close to the 8 because something hit the raised 1 and moved it inward toward the 8. I said a rolling machine because it made the 1 align more with the rim.

You can still see the base of the 1 in its original position. It doesn't fit the profile of a 4 or a 6 and 3.1g is normal for a 1981 but, not an '84 or '86.

I have a few of these with slanted 1's.
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 Posted 05/16/2017  12:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Druu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm with Spruett at 1981 on this one. OP's update that the weight is 3.1g lends credence to this guess. Can you post a head on picture of the coin?
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To me it appears to be a copper planchet coin. So I'm leaning towards a damaged 1 on the date. Weight of the coin would tell us more. 2.5 Zinc, 3.14 Copper.
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I only got 2 good pics that could use. I weighed the coin on a different scale, it read 3.09. To the right of that 1 looks like metal that is smooth. The 1 was stamped.


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spruett001 can you post one of them so I can know the difference.
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If I can find them.

I'll look this evening and see if I can get some pics. I actually have one somewhere that has the first 1 slanted like that as well.
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spruett001 thanks. I am very new at this. So all info with possible pics will help. I do like coop's videos.
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Ok, here are three I found. Each one shows different levels of damage that created a slanted 1.

This one is very slight but, the damage to the lower/outer part of the 1 gives it a slanted appearance:

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On this one, you can see the area to the right of the last digit (may not have been a 1) were the coin was scraped inward and left the slanted "1":

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This last one is very clean and would make you think that it had always been like that but, there's no plausible explanation other than damage:

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I know it's a crazy thought that an entire digit can be "moved" without other noticeable damage but, all it takes is that one randomly well-placed hit. I hope this helps!
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Vending machines/coin counters can alter the devices. Most of the time the alteration is parallel to the rim. Coin contact can also altered coins, but the directions will vary. What ever direction the coin is hit is the clue that was not mechanical.
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