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Does NGC Make Many Variety Mistakes? 1922 Grant Star

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Hi I was thinking about buying this coin in the pic. It just says 1922 Grant on the label. But it clearly has a star. Is it something they missed adding to the label? Don't they return it ungradeable if it is a fake? Any thought? (this is not my picture so I cut out the serial # and barcode) Thanks in advance. Rob

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You would need to check if there is a different coin # for the star version. If there is, contact customer service and ask if they'll fix it as a mechanical error. If the right # wasn't specified on the invoice, then you'll have to resubmit.
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I would call NGC and see what can be done. Either they will
fix it or resubmit.
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There is a different coin number for the star version.
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Here is a closer picture of the Star. I typed the nu,ber into NGC's website and it was the exact same picture & coin. Just seemed like a huge miss on their part. Also the number you mentioned, is that like the last 3 digits? I have looked at Grant stars graded the same and the numbers are all different.

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VAMmers have a solid answer to that question. I'll let you wonder what that would be
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Why do people not like to look at the web...

https://www.NGCcoin.com/coin-explor...coinid-19306

vs

https://www.NGCcoin.com/coin-explor...coinid-19307

so did you submit it as 19306 or 19307?
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Its not mine yet, it on an online store.
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So buy it and send it in to be regraded using the correct coin #.
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The last three numbers on a NGC slab refer to the numerical order the coin is listed on your submission form

124556(form #)- 016 ( sixteenth coin line on form)

Has nothing to do with series or number within series

If you can get it for no star price it would be a bargain, the. Resubmit to get correct label, you can't loose If you get it priced as a no star
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Ok thanks. I don't have a Lot of graded coins, and was lost on those numbers.thanks everyone for all the info.
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Quote:
There is a different coin number for the star version.


I was referring to NGC's internal coin numbers, not the numbers on the slab. What I was trying to convey was that if they used the correct number, then the word "star" would appear on the label.
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Right, 19306 vs 19307... whopping difference in value too.
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It's an authentic Grant - Star and concur that somehow NGC missed the variety.

Certainly worth more $ in today's market than the 'standard' Grant ... but you made no mention of price so I am unable to offer an opinion on value.

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Sorry have not been on much, was at hospital. 490 was price on it. Seemed to still be a lot cheaper than other lightly cleaned Grant Stars.
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It's not 'lightly cleaned' that might be market acceptable, it's improperly cleaned (with a Brillo pad).

Retail value AU is 100-110 as marked, 900-1000 with star. For a details coin? What are you comfortable at? It sold for $494 http://www.ebay.com/itm/292121947538) with 25 bidders, so several people liked it...

There is a NGC AU53 on ebay today with zero bids starting at 674.
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