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Previously posted on 3/26 , http://goccf.com/t/284122,I would appreciate a clarification on the cause of this struck through or whatever else may be the cause. I would be thankful if Coop and other experts could chime in and provide their expert opinion. Coop you had previously asked what the weight is on this which I missed to reply, the weight is 4.6g     Edited by Chase007
05/21/2017 1:08 pm
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Mike already said what it is. When Mike speaks we listen. John1  |
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At that weight, it's definately missing metal, ergo, the peel.
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Thank you fioti.
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05/21/2017 2:55 pm
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John1, I am not sure what you are referring to!I had a respond from oldMike,stating: certainly different. the other opinion was from ErrorCoins22: Quote:
This coin was originally a planchet with a large lamination flap. The lamination flap shifted slighty and folded some as it moved through the production process. It was then struck into this coin. Because of the shift, there is some weakness on the reverse where there wasn't enough metal to fully strike up the design.
Often times, lamination errors are also struck through errors, but most here do not acknowledge them as such. In this case I am curious why is the coin is missing weight,wouldn't it be due to missing metal?and wouldn't have the weight remained the same if the lamination flap was folded and then struck into the coin? And finally I was responding to Coop asking for the weight,in which I missed to reply,he must have had a reason for asking. As always, Thanks in advance to all experts opinion. Edited by Chase007
05/21/2017 3:06 pm
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From what Mike said in your other thread, it was not struck through. Just a lamination. Mike is the head of most error discussions, and when he gives his opinion, it's usually right. The chief expert on error coins said it's a lamination, so there's your expert opinion.  |
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The Mike being referred to is mikediamond. He said this in the other topic: Quote:
It's a lamination error. Some of the metal peeled off before the strike (the area around IN GOD), while most of it peeled off after the strike. coop asked for the weight because if it's struck-through, the weight should remain normal. If it was a lamination peel that fell off, the coin would be underweight, like yours. It's certainly a very cool looking one too!  In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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CoinCollector,Spruett ,thank you kindly for clarifying,much appreciated.
Mike
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I agree it is big lamination. You can see the ghost devices where the peel happened.
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You should Not have started a new thread. You could have replied to your original thread asking for clarification and further replies. I have locked your original thread.
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Listen to Mike Diamond. He's a top error expert. What he says, you can take to the bank. (don't really take the coin to the bank though lol)
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Cascade, please read below,I have a lot of respect for Mike Diamond .I have known of Mike long before I joined CCF! Fuzzy, it was purely my oversight, some time had gone by since the original thread when I revisited this I completely over looked and forgot that there was a second page to this thread so I wanted to ask the question the original thread was locked and I also forgot Mike diamond and Coop had responded,oh brother, one thing after another and here we are,mistakes happen,it was totally unintentional.part of it is the age you know  Edited by Chase007
05/22/2017 8:38 pm
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So are you saying you need a sign in your area?  LOL |
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 Ya Ya, please,need one of those signs. Coop,where did you find my picture?  Edited by Chase007
05/24/2017 11:04 am
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It's important to challenge the ideas of the so-called experts. Mike Diamond himself is doing this with much of his research.
I still stand by my assessment. A pre-strike lamination that remains with the coin into the striking chamber IS also a struck through coin. The coin is struck through the delaminating portion of the coin.
In this specific case, this lamination flap stayed attached or or conjoined in some way during strike. After strike this same flap detached from the coin. That's why it weighs less than a normal nickel.
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Thank you ErrorCoins222, it makes perfect sense,I appreciate your opinion and understanding.
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