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Banknotes And Coins Prohibited To Send To Australia?

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I've been selling coins and the odd banknote for quite a number of years, but today at the post office I was told that it was prohibited to send banknotes and coins to Australia. After a bit of discussion, I managed to get it sent as it was a Gaddafi Libyan note and as such is no longer legal tender (I think anyway).

Is this a new prohibition? I haven't encountered it before, I don't want to be using UPS to send small coins and banknotes to Australia when it costs a fortune to do this, as opposed to a large letter with The Royal Mail.

Thoughts on this?
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I send and receive coins from Australia a lot of times never get refused.
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I've seen this restriction also. I think it has alot to do with

what you put on the customs slip. I've heard of people who've put 'decorative planchets' on the form. I honestly dont remember what I put. I wish it didn't cost so much to

send a couple pieces. I did a trade with trout & was about floored

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Google (you've heard of it?) royal mail international prohibited items gives several links including https://personal.help.royalmail.com...al-customers which links to http://www.royalmail.com/personal/i...untry-guides and http://www.royalmail.com/australia-x

On that page, it clearly says "Coins, bank notes and bullion" (three lines up from "Nuclear reactors, boilers, machinery and mechanical appliances"
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Well I have sent and received from Australia, at present time I have a coin package going to Australia which says
"Hobby Accessories" which is true.
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Australia's postal regulations does have a clause that forbids the mailing of coins and currency. (US regs have a similar one with the notice that cash is only insurable if sent by registered mail. But Numismatic material is covered if sent by any insured method.) What they intend is to restrict the mailing of CASH, currently negotiable money. They don't really intend to forbid the mailing of COLLECTIBLE coins and currency, but if the post office here notices that restriction they will tell you that you can't mail coins and currency to Australia. So call them hobby material, numismatic collectibles, printed engravings or some other innocuous term.


The only way to really know the mailing regulations for a country is to get ahold of their version of the "Domestic Mailing Manual" and then read it. Ours is online, I don't know if other countries have theirs online or not. Found Australia version of the DMM and it is not very comprehensive, and I have not found a clause in it making any exception for numismatic items, but their is an exemption if the face value is less than $200 and they are sent by Registered mail or a method that requires a signature.


This is the regulations that prohibit coins and banknotes

57.1.11 bank notes lodged for delivery within Australia which exceed a face value of
more than $A200. For the avoidance of doubt, bank notes up to a limit not
exceeding the face value of $A200, lodged for delivery within Australia, are not
prohibited from carriage if lodged under the registered post service, or under a
parcel delivery service which requires a signature on delivery;

57.1.12 bank notes lodged for delivery in the international post,

57.1.13 coins lodged for delivery within Australia which exceed a face value of more
than $A200. For the avoidance of doubt, coins up to a limit not exceeding the
face value of $A200, lodged for delivery within Australia, are not prohibited
from carriage if lodged under the registered post service or under a parcel
delivery service which requires a signature on delivery;

57.1.14 coins lodged for delivery in the international post; or
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Looks like I'll be writing 'Hobby Material' on the customs label from now on.
Thanks for the responses.
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The problem @Conder101 may not be with the Aussie rules, but rather the Royal Mail's interpretation of them as codified in their equivalent of the USPS mail manuals.
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Quote:
...the Royal Mail's interpretation of them...
Two nations separated by a common language.
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The problem @Conder101 may not be with the Aussie rules, but rather the Royal Mail's interpretation of them as codified in their equivalent of the USPS mail manuals.

The problem is probably the same one we run into here in the United States, every postal clerk has his own "understanding" of the rules. So one clerk tells you you can't do something and another thinks what you are doing is just fine, one tells you you can't insure coins and another has no problem with it. They have the rules, but everyone has their own interpretation or understanding of them.

Typical solution is try another postal station/clerk.
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