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A Question About Identical Coins From Different Years

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 Posted 05/26/2017  06:00 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Aragorn78 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello, I collect foreign coins and I need to ask you something:

When I have two or more identical (absolutely the same)coins from different years (let us say 1 UAE dirham 2005 and 2007) should I keep all of them or only one of them (and in this case which one: the oldest, the rarest, the finest...) ?

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 Posted 05/26/2017  06:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DL20K to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Both options are possible, depending what you're aiming for.

Here, the common choice would be:
- if you collect world coins (all of them, or all coins from a certain period regardless of origin), keep one coin of every type. It is not really feasible to collect everything that was ever minted by date or date/mintmark, even if you restrict yourself to one century. In that case, choose the coin in the best condition.
- if you collect a certain country (or region), keep all dates.

That however, is a must. There are people who collect a single country by type only. Consider how many US date/mintmark variations there are - or check what the monetary situation in Germany before 1871 was. When the amount of material is extensive, or when funds are low, one per type is a good solution.

Of course, you may combine both. Collect UAE in detail, but other Middle Eastern states by type. Or collect by type at first, then expand to a specialized collection.

There isn't one correct answer to this.

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 Posted 05/26/2017  06:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Aragorn78 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for your answer, I think I'll keep the finest coin of every different type.
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 Posted 05/26/2017  08:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OFEC:

1. One From Every Country

2. One From Every Culture

3. One From Every Century


It is well enough to collect a representative coin from each country, but if several coins are available, include them all in your collection, even if your collection in some places may seem a little lop sided.

I don't do 1, but I have fun with 2 and 3 - all three metals represented. Of course my collection is lop sided, but it must be expected that is the natural outcome of how I collect. I don't mind that at all.

You get to learn a heck of a lot about the histories of various cultures and the development of the coinage systems they used over the last 2,500 years, and I illustrate that with the coins that they would have been familiar with.


THEIR coins take me back into THEIR times and places.
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 Posted 05/26/2017  09:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Debrajc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
and altho I too am a fan of type set collecting.
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 Posted 05/26/2017  09:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think I never developed much of a system myself. I collect some series by date, some by type, and some by whatever catches my fancy.

I did try to get the century set - but 5th century BC and up tends to be quite expensive (I did get my 4th century BC coin a few weeks ago, and even that one cost $8), and some medieval periods are tricky to find (I think I'm still missing 10th, 11th and 14th centuries).

Not even trying the "culture" set (at least, not consciously) - some stuff just doesn't come up easily (if at all), and I'm probably not enough of an expert to tell 5th century India from 19th century India, either.
(But one shop I've been to had a nice assortment of bull-and-horseman jitals - maybe I should check out those?)

Oh, and of course I'm working on the country count (currently 283 as far as Numista is concerned - a few more should be there but for various reasons aren't).
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 Posted 05/28/2017  12:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Aragorn78 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks to all of you for your answers!
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 Posted 05/28/2017  8:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Personally, I keep every different date I obtain - but I do not actively seek out different dates, or try to "complete a date/mintmark set", of any country.

Coin collecting does not have hard and fast "rules" about what you can and can't collect. This is a hobby; it's supposed to be fun. If hunting down dates and seeking out the rare mintmarks sounds like fun to you, then go ahead and do it. If it sounds more like hard work or a chore and something you wouldn't enjoy, then don't.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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 Posted 05/28/2017  10:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not sure if this thread is the right place for this... just wanted to mention that a coin I bought on a whim on Saturday turned out to be 10th century. I thought it was from 18th century Japan, but nope, Northern Song Dynasty.

I have an 11th century coin in my sights, but it's a poor example (of a rare type, admittedly) and costs $10, I'll probably check the place I got the 10th century coin from first - I recall them having a few more similar ones, and it's not unlikely for some of them to be 11th century. At worst I'd just end up with a few more nice 10th or 12th century coins.

I already have a coin attributed by the guy who sold it to me as 14th century - should probably post it on the Ancients forum and hope someone will be able to tell one way or another.
My only 13th century coin is also a seller attribution, but that one is far more likely (it's a copper scyphate trachy - not sure what else it can be but 13th century).

Still missing 5th and 6th centuries BC, obviously. Probably won't even try for those unless I get really lucky.
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 Posted 05/30/2017  03:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add UltraRant to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think it completely depends on what you want to collect. There are no laws for how a coin collection should look, so there is no punishment if you make your own decisions which may not be according to someone's standard.

I think there are just a few possibilities:

- collect one coin of each currency
- collect one of each coin type within a currency
- collect every year of the coin types within a currency
- or a combination of the above...

What you should check is whether a coin type might have been altered anyway. I do know that some coins have changed metal composition, for example, while still looking the same on the outside. This technically qualifies as a different coin type.

Bottom line: do as you please, it's your collection.
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 Posted 05/30/2017  09:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I didn't realize that OFEC could have so many different meanings!
That's good. SAP is right: follow your own way of collecting and studying the coins.
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 Posted 06/03/2017  7:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To continue with the One From Each Century quest, on Thursday I successfully bought a Northern Song coin from the 11th century, and today (on Saturday), along with a few more Northern Song coins (I think I'm getting sucked up in that series - fortunately they're, mostly, relatively common and cheap), I managed to find and buy a Prague groschen of Karl IV/I - which, despite its ludicrously worn condition, definitely counts for the 14th century.

It was a complete accident, which I most definitely didn't plan for, but as of approximately 8:15 AM, Saturday, June 3, 2017 (forum time - it was afternoon here in Moscow), I apparently have at least one coin from every century back to the 4th century BC - and of course until I get an awful lot more money I don't really plan to go any further.

As far as I can tell, the most expensive to get was the 9th century (the coin was a Cherson cast AE, and I paid $10 for it).
However, IIRC, in a few more cases, I paid a lot for my first coin from a certain century, but got a cheaper one later (and this might well happen to the 9th century too eventually).

That said, my 8th and 13th century coins are still waiting for more precise attributions (though in both cases I'm fairly certain of the century).
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