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1966 LMC Any Explanation For This Pointed 1?

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Die polishing.
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By the way, this is a " LMC", not a " LWC".
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The side result of die polishing. That portion of 1 wasn't polished off, the die was polished with abrasive diamond polish, some residue " filled" that crevasse 1 in that corner inside. Otherwise known as " Struck Through Grease" or greasers. BTW, that diamond polish gets really hard and compacted with multiple "smashings"

Need to label this variety "the toothpick"!.

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some residue " filled" that crevasse 1 in that corner inside.


Thanks - I am thinking that gives me something to visualize. I could not see that it was simply die polishing! It still seems remarkable that the fill would be in such a well defined area with such a clear boundary.
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It's kinda like green casting sand. Seems impossible to hold its shape, but then pound, pound! ... and you have a rock hard surface.
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I am wondering if diamond polish is reserved more for proof dies?
I am thiinking that aluminum oxide cloth was used on business strikes and that one way to tell the difference is that the aluminum oxide leaves die polishing lines, whereas diamond polish does not.
Can anyone clarify?
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I feel this is a Struck Through Grease issue. Note how the overall size if mostly there. When the die has received an isolated area of die polishing it is in the clash area and it removes the wider portion of the devices, leaving a thinned digit.
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Note how this digit was reduced? (the deepest portion of the dies devices are the most tapered, the widest of the upper part of the devices) Unlike the OP's coin.
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I found some references about the nature of the compound used to polish dies:

Die polishing of proof coins with diamond dust compound:

http://www.coinnews.net/2013/10/04/...proof-coins/

Denver mint uses diamond paste and buffing wheels:

http://www.coinnews.net/2014/01/06/...oduce-coins/

Aluminum oxide used to create frosted look on proof coins:

http://www.coinnews.net/2013/10/04/...proof-coins/

If anypne else knows of any other references, I hope you would provide a link?

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I found a 1968 D with a similar defect a couple of years ago. Here is the link if interested http://goccf.com/t/226641
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I found a 1968 D with a similar defect a couple of years ago. Here is the link if interested


That is especially interesting! I have not seen this before on the 1 or any other number or letter. Most curious. It makes me wonder if it is coincidental or not! Thanks, Lewis!
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I have also found several of these in an OBW roll a few years back.. all affecting the "1" in a crescent moon shape at the bottom left side .. I'm fairly certain it was a a roll of 1958 D cents.. I would have to go digging for a day or two to find them..
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I would have to go digging for a day or two to find them..


I would like to see them!
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ok.. here are the two I found so far in my box.. before I got tired from searching.. LOL

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Thanks for those 2 additional examples.

In these examples, it is always the lower left portion of the 1 which is filled. It is looking less coincidental. I wonder what minting process contributes to that?
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It had isolated heavy die polishing to remove a die clash.
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