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Pillar of the Community
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I want to give you a head up that the seller in the link below is selling counterfeit PCGS holders. 282486018063When I ran the barcode scan both of these coins came up with the following 16 digit number: 0072266413663977. The last 8 digits are the PCGS cert number for a 1893 S MS64. You can eyeball the barcodes and see they are the same. The top coin is a 1879 O MS65 and the bottom coin is a 1897 MS66+. A lot of money were spent on these coins.  
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Pillar of the Community
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Post it in the ebay counterfeit reporting section so Bobby sees it. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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You can even trust slabs anymore!! Very sad.  |
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Rest in Peace
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If you've dealt with a few PCGS cases you'd know this isn't like anything they've ever produced.
As in most cases, learning real will teach you false.
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Forum Dad
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Quote: Post it in the ebay counterfeit reporting section so Bobby sees it. Ended May 24 nothing I can do. |
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Pillar of the Community
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If you've dealt with a few PCGS cases you'd know this isn't like anything they've ever produced.
As in most cases, learning real will teach you false. So true. I've learned so much in short period of time here at CCF. Obviously, I have long way to go, but I love this forum where you receive non-biased opinions by so many members!!  Edited by Coconutjoe
06/02/2017 3:58 pm
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but I love this forum where you receive non-biased opinions by so many members!! Ain't that the truth, unlike that other coin forum down the road. |
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Pillar of the Community
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Sickening, really sickening.
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Pillar of the Community
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I have to admit I would have likely been fooled by the slab. What gives them away as obvious fakes (aside from the barcodes already pointed out)? Do you think the coins are fake too then I assume?
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Pillar of the Community
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If you look at the label PCGS MS 65, the grade on both coins is raised up and not on a straight line with the letters. The coins appear to be genuine, but I am not sure as there is a 1893 S XF 40 with the same barcode and a counterfeit coin.
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Valued Member
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Forward your findings to PCGS.
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Pillar of the Community
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I sent the seller a message. I've done this before just to see what type of responses I get. The ones in the know tend not to respond. Not sure if contacting the seller is frowned upon by admins. My message: Parts are copied and pasted from the OP's post. Quote:That ms-65 1879-0 you just sold is in counterfeit PCGS slab. So is the 1897 ms-66+. When I ran the barcode scan both of these coins came up with the following 16 digit number: 0072266413663977. The last 8 digits are the PCGS cert number for a 1893 S MS64. You can eyeball the barcodes and see they are the same. Just though I'd give you the heads so you can cancel the sale and avoid getting in a lot of trouble. We are a group of collectors who look for this kind of stuff on ebay. Sellers response: New message from: tommyrocks69 (452Turquoise Star) Quote:I know. I took everything down. I'm sick to my stomach. I bought a huge lot from a guy and Most of it was legit but 10% or so was Chinese  . I've never sold anything questionable in my life. I appreciate the heads up and I'm doing everything I can to fix the situation. Put the word out because These things really look genuine (unless you are specifically looking for phonies). I didn't respond to the first message he sent. A couple hours later he sent me this follow up question: Quote:
Should I send them into PCGS to have concrete proof to take to this other guy or is that stupid? Would PCGS keep them?
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Pillar of the Community
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I want to give benefit of doubt, but the seller already knew he had "10% or so was Chinese(green wink)". I'm sure he closely examined coins that are high valued. Therefore, I think it was intentional. IMO. Edited by Coconutjoe
06/03/2017 04:10 am
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Bedrock of the Community
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The fact they both have the same barcode should be enough proof. If he sent them to PCGS he would get the coins back but they would crack them out of the holders as they are a copyright/trademark volation
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It even says PCGS down in the lower right of the case. That could have fooled me even though the label is not normal, no holograms
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Bedrock of the Community
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Considering he doesn't show the back of the slab, how do you know it doesn't have a hologram?
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Posted 06/02/2017 2:09 pm
