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Good morning, I picked up this Eisenhower at the bank and sent it off for grading. It came back MS60 with planchet stria variety. Been trying to find definition of what exactly that is. Input is appreciated. Thanks in advance   Edited by shotgung
06/04/2017 09:52 am
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I think it means that the planchet had some sort of Mark or scratch on it when the coin was minted.
"Nummi rari mira sunt, si sumptus ferre potes." - Christophorus filius Scotiae
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Thanks Bump. Found an interesting article about it. Has to do when they unstrap the rolls of metal used for production. Roll slips, thus rubbing against the other layer on the roll, causing the striations in the metal.
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06/04/2017 11:10 am
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Interesting. I wonder how common/uncommon striations are?
"Nummi rari mira sunt, si sumptus ferre potes." - Christophorus filius Scotiae
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Are you talking about that long scratch on the reverse? I don't trust anything ICG has to say not even that grade. IMHO. John1  |
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John1, I guess you are saying that Michael Fazzari and Randy Campbell among others at ICG know far less than you do. LOL BTW, I learned this in one of FAZZARI's authentication seminars: Planchet stria and striae are mint-made lines in the planchet that were not totally struck out. These are fairly common on Ikes and Morgan dollars. I'll bet ICG graders added that to the label so that uninformed collectors posting on Internet forums would not think the coin had PMD! |
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I don't think they are talking about the scratch and neither am I. I've read the stria is near the eagles head and if I look really close, I can see them.
John: I've considered sending it into PCGS to have it regraded and see what they grade it at. If they come back MS60 or higher, I wouldn't doubt future grading w/ ICG.
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06/04/2017 1:48 pm
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"I've read the stria is near the eagles head."
Where exactly did you read this bit of misinformation. Planchet flaws (that's what these are) can be anywhere on a coin! In the case of this coin they are on both sides - some through the wing and some at the back of Ike's head.
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PS If I were the OP, I would not waste 2c more on this coin. IMHO, it has been graded MS-60 because the graders decided the coin is baggy and of low value and the obvious loss of luster on the high points of both sides is is due to stacking friction rather than actual circulation. If the coin were not interesting due to the major stria (I would like to own it) it is spending money to give to a YN! If you choose to send it in anyway, you better crack it out. Otherwise PCGS will grade it AU for sure. There is a good possibility they will say it is PMD too! PS I'll go with ICG's opinion about PMD or stria as I know Fazzari at ICG examines marks like this with a stereo microscope while I'll bet PCGS does not. Nevertheless, you can buy some really nice Ikes for the price of the PCGS grading fee. To me, it's a no brainer. |
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I see nothing in the photo that could be interpreted as planchet striae. There's no telling what ICG meant when they used that term in this instance. There are several causes for planchet streaks, lines, and scratches.
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Thanks Mike for replying so quickly. John1 |
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I've not researched "Stria" on Ikes much in the past. Am more confused now after trying today. Is it referring to just a clash or left over roller marks?  John1 after enlarging current images seems more like circulation (scratches) issues than striations. As usual I could be wrong. Thanks, Doug. |
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Mike,
This is the first time on any forum that I do not understand your post!
AFAIK roller marks and planchet scratches are BOTH striations into the struck coins surface. The both resemble scratches into the coin if a collector does not know what he is looking at.
What do you call the big,long, scratch through the eagle's wing?
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