43 & 72s Lincolns That Are Probably Mech. Doubled

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jcuve Valued Member United States 142 Posts	Posted 04/21/2008 02:07 am These two Lincoln cents are probably both Mechanical Doubling: a 1970-S and a 1943. I was hoping they weren't but I have been checking around - I was surprised to discover that Mechanical Doubling could be so varied. I thought it was more localized, maybe just the date. With this '43 it affected everything, all outside devices and the portrait; the '70 at first, to me, mimicked the '60 sm/lg date. I have now seen another similar '43, and then a comparable '95 demonstrating extreme Mechanical Doubling; I have also heard, though don't know first hand, that late sixties and early seventies Lincolns were prone to the doubling seen on this '70-S. If I'm wrong, let me know... Report this Post to the Staff

j_h_s Pillar of the Community United States 1934 Posts	Posted 04/21/2008 04:54 am Based on CONECAs website, the 43's date does not have the thickness for DD. Nice doubling in the lettering, though. The 72 looks like simple doubling. Report this Post to the Staff
coppercoins Pillar of the Community United States 7629 Posts	Posted 04/21/2008 09:05 am Both are Machine Doubling. Flattened down, shelf like, and takes up the normal width of the letters and makes them thinner than they should be. Basing whether they are doubled dies on what doubled dies are listed is not correct thinking. It's the characteristics on the coin alone that tell one way or the other. If you base whether a coin is a doubled die on what's already listed some place there's no chance you'll recognize a new discovery or an unlisted variety. Always important - learn what makes them look different. Don't just go by whether your coin compares to a listed variety. Report this Post to the Staff
jcuve Valued Member United States 142 Posts	Posted 04/21/2008 10:18 am When I saw them in person for the first time (yes I bought them, not for a lot but still) I was like oh crap, this isn't right is it? My reason for uploading images as I felt another set of eyes would be able to let me know if there was something here or not. Apparently not. But it always good to see these things first hand and gain further knowledge for the future. Over this weekend I have seen a number of similar images of coins like this, well not so much the '70-S, but the '43. It has taking some searching and I wish some of these Mechanical Doubling images were complied somewhere as counter to all the wonderful resources that would point you in the right direction (such as Coppercoins.com!). Maybe there is and I am not aware of it... It's unfortunate that the coin market is so complicated and there are so many uniformed (and I guess sometime dishonest) sellers and buyers. I can see this forum, and others, have resources that'd keep you in the loop, but I should have joined a while ago as should many, many others. Thanks for looking at my post and giving some feedback! Edited by jcuve 04/21/2008 10:19 am Report this Post to the Staff
garylcsr Pillar of the Community United States 1952 Posts	Posted 04/21/2008 5:27 pm on the 43's a lot of them look doubled when they are actually reprocessed. the reprocessing makes them look like a DD but it is just the plating Gary Report this Post to the Staff
TreasHunt Pillar of the Community United States 2540 Posts	Posted 04/22/2008 12:50 pm Both are MD's. Nice try. Better luck next time. But, keep on looking, ya never know. Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 04/23/2008 08:20 am Again, the proper term is Machine Doubling. There is no such term of "Mechanical Doubling." I like the full description: MDD. It shows what they really are: Machine Doubled Damage. Report this Post to the Staff
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