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Thank you Dick aka Cpt, Kirk. I will be sending my coin to Mr. Neff @ Coneca. He believes I may have a new discovery! How cool is that!? I must add, check out coppercoins. They are very helpful and have alot of info. Thanks to all here also  Tery Is this an error or die variety, Yes those are lines coming down from date. I'm still clueless! Is an error worth more than a variety? Thanks for input...Please Teryble  Image:  199R.jpg46.72 KB Edited by teryble
04/20/2008 09:24 am
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4 lines protruding from the bottom of the date? I'd say a die crack....but 4 of em parellel kinda is weird. Any way to get a clearer pic?
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These are called trails and though I don't know much about them and how they are formed I know that if wou go to coppercoins.com and do a search for "trails" in the forum section there are many posts discussing this subject.
Richard
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Right--trails!  I know little about these, but I've seen the discussions on coppercoins.com, and I would say yours is rather dramatic. People there would enjoy seeing this one. |
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I think that also looks like a nice die chip? in the top loop of the second nine.
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I am still a bit fuzzy on trails, but I believe they will be classified as die varieties since they are a part of the die's design when the die is placed into use on the coining press. That's the definition of a die variety.
Die varieties and errors are unrelated to one another, so asking which is more valuable is like asking whether a pound of silver or a bushel of oranges is more valuable. Does not compute - no relation between them.
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If Chuck is fuzzy, then that makes me absolutely clueless Does anyone have a handle on the process whereby these "trails" are created? Does it have to do with a new hubbing process, because it's unknown (by me) on earlier Lincoln cents.  |
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Those lines are known as trails, and your is the strongest example I have seen! Look on the reverse, and see if you can see anything odd about the steps, and columns, etc. They usually are common, and many times both show, on the same coin. I suggest you post it on coppercoins.com, and mark it attention "wavysteps2003". Bj will be very glad to see this coin! Like thoase before me, I am even more "fuzzy", but there are many of us it that "canoe"! Nice find, by the way!
Dick
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Thanks for all the input and I registered @ coppercoins.....waiting to hear back, Thanks Dick! I'll update w/ a pic of back later, but the columns do look funky.
Thanks, Teryble
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Tery, I see you made it, "over there". The p[hoto is great, and thanlks to kurt for the"beaming over". I know I'm not the first to welcome you here, but I'may not be the last. I'll be waiting to see what the reverse of that 1999-P looks like!
Dick
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04/18/2008 11:55 pm
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I'm going to take a leap here and venture a theory on the trails. I think that the combination of heat, die chip and ejection from the dies is the cause of the trails. Let me expand on this. I know that extreme pressure causes heat, the heat helps the metal flow. It is evident that the obverse die had a chip in the 2nd/middle "9", which might have caused the coin to slightly cling to the die. Upon ejection in combination with the clinging coin and the hot and previously flowing metal on the surface of it that you come up with an uncommon yet interesting trailed coin.
Now as this is the first I have seen. I would be interested if other examples have any die chips or anything else that would cause it to cling to the die prior to ejection.
that's my 1c + 1c's worth
Fellow numismawhatchamacallit
John Booth
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John, if you will check with Wavysteps2003, at coppercoins.com, you will finf this info:
Theresa, it is a very nice find either way (Canadian or US) and if you could, I would like to examine the coin and enter it into the trail / wavy steps files (DER /DEO files). Thank you.
BJ Neff
BJ, has gone into this anomily, quite extensively, and knows as mich as anyona around, regarding trails,and wavysteps.
Dick
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Hi Dick, Just sent my trails penny off to Mr. Neff. What kind of files are you referring to?
I'm sorry I do not know all the definitions!
Thanks again,
Teryble
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