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Pillar of the Community
United States
1055 Posts |
Pictured is a coin I am considering to purchase and would like the forums opinion on this first year coin . Overall I like the coin and feel it's PQ for the assigned grade but I'm looking for originality. The reverse is what concerns me, the rest of the set is original surfaces and I would like to Stay consistent. Thanks   |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I understand your concern, and I believe that the coin has been cleaned on both sides, but it is especially evident in the reverse. The reverse shows very uneven degrees of wear. The eagle looks like it was scrubbed harshly. Nicer detail in the periphery.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1475 Posts |
It looks like an old cleaning. However, it might be market acceptable by TPG with a straight grade. I'm sure experts will weigh in. Nice 210 year old coin. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10982 Posts |
The reverse field above the eagle really hurts this one. Actually all around the eagle has been cleaned downgrading the eye appeal.
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Pillar of the Community
7234 Posts |
Reverse looks like it was totally toned then someone "erased" the toning in the fields and eagles feathers with something. I don't like that coin as it seems it would be hard to sell if you needed to.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3479 Posts |
Wiped 100 years ago and now in its second skin. Market acceptable with some nice toning on the reverse.
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Pillar of the Community
Taiwan
606 Posts |
I like it very much. The toning on the reverse is especially attractive to me. The obverse appears to have similar toning
among the stars and date but not as vibrant. No indication of a cleaning to me. If you think it is solid for the grade and
you are comfortable with the price go for it. Nice original coin to me.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1346 Posts |
So, what does the slab say about it?
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CCF Advertiser
United States
1533 Posts |
Old cleaning, recovering nicely. I think TPGs would straight grade it VF-30.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
36845 Posts |
Possibly an old cleaning. Much of the eagle problem is due to strike. My guess is that it is in a straight grade holder and is acceptable. I would have no problem buying this coin.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3210 Posts |
Here is something some people don't know about early half dollars, they were many times inconsistently struck especially on early capped bust halves. You will sometimes see a near full strike on the obverse, whereas the reverse (especially the eagle's wings and legs), will show a near full strike on one wing and leg and the other wing and leg looks heavily worn. You cannot use the supposed wear on the eagle's wings and legs to determine the grade on these early dated halves. Look online and you can see that strike posed an issue, along with many early US coinage. Remember we were using horsepower to power the coin striking, whereas we eventually had actual machines doing it later in the 1800's. As for the coin the reverse has a very yellowish/orange color which may be from some old adhesive tape on it long ago, if this coin were raw I would acetone it with a q-tip to see if the acetone would remove the residue. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
6370 Posts |
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The reverse shows very uneven degrees of wear. The eagle looks like it was scrubbed harshly. The uneven "wear" is a result of striking issues, which were prevalent in these early capped bust halves. I see no evidence of a harsh scrubbing. The color pattern on the reverse hints of a cleaning, but I think it is the result of residual luster hugging the devices. I vote original. Nice coin! |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
Agree ancient cleaning, VF-25 or so, market acceptable and very attractive.
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
11922 Posts |
I would think it is a straight-grade VF-30.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
1055 Posts |
This coin is straight graded Vf-35 with CACs green bean of approval. This is the real large stars variety O-114 R3 which is scarcer than the O-112 R1 which TPGs also call large stars.
What would you guys think a fair offer on the pictured coin would be?
Edited by cownas22
06/14/2017 08:20 am
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
36845 Posts |
$500-550 would seem fair to me.
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Posted 06/12/2017 11:12 pm
