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Is This 1992 Lincoln Cent A Die Cap, Or No?

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Have I found the Holy grail..? Need help please.. This is a 1992 Lincoln Cent I received with several other error coins from my uncles collection...

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to CCF. Click on Tutorials top right of page.
Will wait for pics.
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 Posted 06/21/2017  11:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Darin Smith to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are some pics of the 1992 Lincoln Cent hopeful die cap, Thankyou for your input

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That coin has been beaten and abused, not an error. A die cap error looks similar to a bottle cap and should not be bent and warped which is a sure sign of PMD.
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 Posted 06/21/2017  11:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add artstaz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also, maybe a "CLAM" Darin?
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Please tell me what is a CLAM
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1992 P Reverse of 1993  AKA Close AM or CLAM 1992 D Reverse of 1993  AKA Close AM or CLAM
                                            
An amazingly rare Transitional Die Coin. This 1992 obverse die is paired with a 1993 reverse die. The space between the A and M in America was reduced in 1993 creating the Close AM cent. The FG (designer's initials) was also moved farther away from the building on the 1993 dies. It has been theorized that the mint wanted to test the striking of the new dies. This led to a few being struck however some got out into circulation. Another possibility is that someone grabbed the wrong die at the end of the year and struck the CLAM coins by mistake. This allowed a small production run to get out. Since few have been found so far, it is my opinion that the first theory is the most likely cause. With only 5 to 15 1992 P CLAMs and 20 to 30 1992 D CLAMs reported you can see that these coins are the rarest of all of the WAM and CLAM varieties that have been found so far. Every year more of them have been found but the totals are very small even after 8 years of searching.

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It's not a die cap or a CAM. Even if it was either of those, I would cry for the condition it is in. Not an error, just pounded to death. Sorry.
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Yep, looks like PMD to me as well.
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First CCF Thankyou for taking time to give me your expertise. Is it too much to ask why today PMD? I've got approximately 20 hours, 14 in literature and 6 in images, if the coin was hammered on the obverse then why is the date and letters not flattened? How come the reverse is clean? What about the edge of the coin doubled like two different pieces? I realize the shape is enjoyable and not bottle capped, but I've seen a small portion of other coins with this shape and I recently learned of the eliptacle strike. Thankyou for your patience and the education.
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if the coin was hammered on the obverse then why is the date and letters not flattened?

The obverse design is indeed flattened. It takes a huge amount of force to completely obliterate a design, even double struck coins still typically show significant detail from the first strike.

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What about the edge of the coin doubled like two different pieces?

I do not see anything that could be described as "doubling" but there is a flare on the edge due to the hammering action.

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but I've seen a small portion of other coins with this shape and I recently learned of the eliptacle strike

Any other coin you have seen with a similar shape would also be PMD. There is no such thing as an "eliptical strike". A coin can be struck on a eliptical-shaped planchet that is wrongly sized due to a blanking error but that error type would still be flat.

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Is it too much to ask why today PMD?

Thinking about it logically, how would a flat metal disc completely struck by two flat dies end up with curvature instead of a flat surface

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