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1964-D Half Dollar Triple Clipped Planchet

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One of my favorite dealer junk bin picks. This only sort of counts because it was picked out of the junk bin of the shop I work for. They thought it was grinded down but I explained to them that the coin exhibits the blakesly affect. Just for your guys' viewing pleasure! Feel free to comment as you'd like... Enjoy!



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Seems plausible or thinking like you with current images. Thanks, Doug.
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I'm not seeing the Blakesly, but not bad for from the junk bin, silver!
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Coinmasters, doesn't seem right for a clip from stock plate, not straight through entire coin. This could only happen if coin was at an angle when some downward force applied "nicking" the edge. Is it possible to be a partial eject and bouncing around in the die press? I'm not aware of that eject process. This looks more like it was caught in a mechanical moving device such as a washing machine, a counter/sorter or such. Seems more reasonable was stuck inside a spinner wheel of a counter because of weight an damage and wasn't immediately ejected. I also see no Blakesly.
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Thanks for your input guys! I respectfully disagree... IMO you can see blakesly on the largest clip on the date. look directly across and youll see. Look right between "half" and "dollar". That is directly across from the clip. And it might not be just a curved clip. They could be ragged ones. There are different types of clips. JMHO...
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Dustin

Took a closer look. It is possible at 5-6 o'clock is a clip, looks too ragged tho, it is rounded in the center, clips are straight up and down, this "knife blade" look tells me that something either ground it an both sides or grabbed it and drug it outwards (think pliers, side cutter). the other marks all are PMD, directions, angles are all wrong for a clip. You coin guys may be right...it is "junk" silver tho!

Here's where I'm coming from:


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Check the edge and see if the cladding reverses on the clipped part, you can tell if its genuine if the copper stripe is reversed in position EDIT: I'm a dummy. I'm leaning towards genuine, because I do see what is likely a blakesley effect between the words HALF DOLLAR and above and to the left of E in LIBERTY
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After a second look I am relatively certain that at the very least the large clip is a genuine clip, the rim tapers off as it approaches the clip as you would expect from a genuine one, an effect that is really hard to alter post mint.
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Nice one Dustin
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I think this is a genuine triple-clip. The largest two exhibit both the Blakesley Effect and rim tapering as well as weakened devices near the clip because of missing metal. The smallest, near the Y in LIBERTY, is most likely a "rim clip." Its attributes may be in question but the placement of it along with two genuine small clips makes me think it is also genuine.


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Check the edge and see if the cladding reverses


That doesn't apply to a 1964 Kennedy half.
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ahaha good catch spruett I'm not sure how that slipped my mind
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I think this is a genuine triple-clip. The largest two exhibit both the Blakesley Effect and rim tapering as well as weakened devices near the clip because of missing metal. The smallest, near the Y in LIBERTY, is most likely a "rim clip."

It is absolutely a genuine triple clip, nice find The tapered rims and weakened devices are diagnostics that cannot be accurately replicated through damage.
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